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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 05:05

We tend to let our guard down when we actually meet someone from this country who seems fairly normal...  DON"T!!!!  Two stories related to me from friends on here.  They were too embarrassed to post this themselves and they know people on here read what I write so they wanted me to get their stories out...

First story..  My friend met a woman in Boston who was visiting from Arizona.  This woman had a great profile..   real photos..  and was a certified MM millionaire!  He felt comfortable. (check your agreement for MM's disclaimer about the certification process).  She was wonderful.  He even brought her home to meet the parents.  Three days after she left he was going to take some money out of his account..  and found out she had his credit card/ ATM card and was going to town.  She also had his SS# and tried to open credit.  While he slept she went thru everything in his wallet and briefcase.  She also got into his email.  He went to the police..  the alias she used led them to the real person who had an arrest record for scams and other crimes as long as your arm..  with photos that matched! 

Second story..  They had been dating for 2 months.  He noticed she would be a little loopy on the phone but never thought much about it.  She came home with him after they had met many other times on the road.  After she left little things came to light.  A couple old bottles of pain killers left over from surgery were missing from the medicine cabinent..  cash kept in a dresser drawer was missing.. and a couple old pieces of jewelry.  The loopy phone conversations now came into focus.

 

Scammers come from this country also.  They work their scams slowly to get into your world.  It maybe for money or drugs or both.  MM can be scammed.  Their "verification" is cursory and easily tricked.  The one above who was a certified "millionaire" had used a man's credit card to pay for her membership..  only used a single name for her account..  and it didnt stop the site from certifying her forged IRS forms.  AWAYS BE CAREFUL.  EACH OF THESE MEN SAW LITTLE CLUES BUT DIDN'T THINK SCAMMERS WOULD ACTUALLY MEET YOU!  BOTH WOMEN WERE BEAUTIFUL AND GLIB.  PROS! 

Now there are many great people on this site..  and I know MMCounselor is working nonstop to try to catch these people and get them off the site.  MMcounselor actually suspended the first scammer's account as soon as my friend contacted her and fought with MM management here to keep her off until a police report was filed. Thats how bold they are..  even fighting suspension!  I just want to highlight the fact that scams are not just done thru emails..   that some have actually had the chance to MEET THE SCAMMERS.

I do have other writings on here about dating experiences, scammers, and poetry.  I invite you to read those other writings by entering smax117 into the blog search function.



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Posted on Sun, Jun 02, 2013 14:25

Wow as a Newbe here this is both enlightening and frightening...nevertheless, thank you both!

 



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Posted on Sun, Feb 05, 2012 12:37

I addded the reference to your blogs in my profile. Hopefully gets approved and other people will see it. 

Here is a story of my own and may help some of us to at least weed out Nigerian scammers that pretend to live in UK, US or Canada. I met a guy on this site (he deleted his profile about 3 months of staying in this site - I am not sure if he is not here again under a different profile - even a woman one). Even talk with him on the phone. He pretended to live in Ireland. And his accent matched the region. He had everything verified in his profile except millionaire status. I did even a IP address check on his email header and I ask him for copies of his IDs - that he was very prompt to send. The only thing he didn't want to do was to get on Skype pretending that the connection is very bad from Ireland. After reading some of the romancescam site forum entries I did a little search about Nigerian people. I found out that they are very superstitious. So still having a suspicion about this guy I sent him an e-mail cursing him if he is a scammer. What happened after really amazed me....

He dissapeared for 2 weeks. On the third week he wrote me to apologize and recognize that he is a scammer and asked me to free him from my curses. I told him that I will do that only if he sends me a video with the real himself and talking about something that only he and me will know. 2 days later I got the email with the video. He was a black guy. Considering my IP tracing and the fact that his phone number is not from the list of the UK numbers that you can redirect - he is really leaving in Ireland, UK. And believe me he is taking all the time in the world to talk with you. I don't know what he is getting from this because I didn't send him any money - it's true he tried to ask and that is what kept my suspicions going. But he continue to talk even when I refused to send any money.

So keep in mind these scammers are not afraid to be caught by us or the police but seem to fear a lot a divine punisment. They are very afraid of curses. Try that when a person you talk with doesn't want to use Skype to talk with you. And don't trust Yahoo messenger they figured a way to get around that as the video rendering in it seems to be very slow in a lot of computers. I had a scammer that I didn't talk even for a week that was trying to use that trick on me. I close any communication with him way before getting to any curses.

I am creating a new blog of my own with this info but I want to make it as visible as possible in other blogs. Sorry smax if I am intruding in your blog with this. But I am really frustrated with these scammers and how much they take from our time. Now I learn to cut them short. One more lesson learned. And find attached one of the photos the UK scammer is using, for sure a guy he is talking with, pretending that he is a woman.


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Posted on Fri, Feb 03, 2012 12:30

I can usually identify foriegn scammers--I turn in several a week but dishonest Americans, hard to tell what their motives are. The internet dating sites have become like a river that branches off into murky water and sometimes sewage. It has become a front for prostitution, "sugar baby-ing," a hideous way to live that neither helps the place of women in society or the world we want children to grow up in. I haven't had one connection in 10 years and I'm good with that, finally accepted that. There's just no way to insure that members are good people.You have to do that yourself and them telling you they are good is usually a sign of deceit. I look at profiles and communications for substance-- at who they are. If they don't have anything they are using subterfuge. If they don't match me in numerous details, why the hell are they contacting me? It's got to make sense. Also my location is unattractive-- only appeals to red necks, in general. And I have no tolerance for that life style at all. Dating at my age is like a really bad swap meet where everyone is trying to sell broken stuff. No, thank you. If I want to be inspired as an older athlete and a sedentary person thinks they are my type, that is wrong too. So you have to look at who the person is and give them time to reveal that, then choose, yes or no. Match the details of your life. I'm just tired of spending so much time and effort trying to find a safe and sane dating prospect. The sites have different features but some of the ones that are locked up tightest have the most scammers!Cruising the dating sites is more of a pasttime I indulge in once in awhile just to see what's out there.

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Posted on Sun, Jan 29, 2012 19:32

@alana    of course



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Posted on Sun, Jan 29, 2012 19:29

smax this is great information you are sharing with us. I have also few blogs here - one of them about how to spot fake profiles. But as you pointed out the truth is that the scammers are not only on the site - you can meet them and talk with them and still be victim of a scam. You need to keep your guard high. As not all the people are reading these blogs I went to the point of including some information about scammers in my own profile. Hopefully more men will see that and be more careful. smax can i add a comment in my profile about people reading your blogs?



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Posted on Mon, Jan 23, 2012 19:34

Ah...the precise words may may vary, but the scammers overall message never changes. Attempts to sweep you off your feet. The only women they get are the most vulnerable; the most needy; the most naive. Ladies, remember, please: A man whose initial contact is designed to seduce you without even getting to know you first is ALWAYS a scammer. No exceptions, ever.


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Posted on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 07:12

@ layloobread..   damn..  that scammer is using my poetry ploy?   he needs to get his own style.

 

@smiles1977..    I agree.

@laughing cloud..   none of us go looking for scammers..  they come for us.  We just need to recognize them.  I have another couple blog entries about scammers that you might want to read that helps you trecognize them so you don't lose your "energy"

@Diana3316 and avea..  The scams get more sophisticated each year.  We learn what theyre doing and so they need new scams to get us.

@everyone (curious et al)  Kudos to Brit (mmcounselor) but the rest of them need to get more of them before they get on.  I think the certification process could be more rigorous so Brit wouldnt have so much to do



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Posted on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 07:10

HAHAHAHHA, DONT WORRY I DID REPORT HIM! THANX! LAYLOOBREAD.



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Posted on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 19:21

Quoting layloobread:

HI, I KNEW THIS MAN WAS A SCAmmer! HE told me his wife had died and then alarm bells rung for me, i had a gut instinct.He wrote to me sending me poetry a complete nutter i thought. Then i asked him to call me, he didnt then i said lets skype, he didnt answer me.HE kept writing to me and i wasnt interested them bcos i added him to my messenger he was online this morning so out of curiousity and confirmation i said hi bcos i hadnt heard from him in about a week and i wanted to find out if i was right. After saying hi to him he said he was in africa his mum was sick but he couldnt use his credit card out there!!!! I immediately thought let him fall in my trap lol!!!! Isaid oh let me help you do u need any money? He said to me are u sure, i replied to him and i wont repeat what i said lol but i can assure you after what i did say to him he might think twice before he trys that again! He picked the wrong woman lol!!!!!



And I hope you reported him to MM Counselor [Brittany]. And congratulations on being so shrewd. We need more quick-witted, shrewd scammer-catchers like you for sure.


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Posted on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 08:01

I have received two emails from this man who is not a gentleman. This is a "cut and paste" email. Yo can tell easily if you respond as the first email is as shown and then if you answer he will answer you back and the first and last sentence is a different type. He has sent this to me with different names but always the same text. This time he is Tino and last time Raymond. Name does not matter, he will change it. Be carefull ladies. Here it is. I was just surfing through this site and your beautiful smile kept me wondering and admiring because it is indeed a rare privilege to come across such an angelic damsel, permit me to say. May i ask you please what is a beauty like you doing in a place like this? well i guess you came to give hope to someone and your beauty reflect your innate character, no doubt. though i am glad my eye caught you and i hope this calligraphy of mine tells you more, Because you are an angel that must have probably come to earth and indeed I know your dazzling smile can't hurt a feeling, tell me what’s the secret, cause I have been trying to put on some smile just like yours but I failed, any way let me not get carried away with your smiling charm. My name is Robert Melvin. I would want to learn how to smile just like you do...I was kind of wondering what would be the name of this wonderful beauty that radiate without ceasing.To be trusted is to expect the best. In life being lovely can be interpreted as negative, however, in life you want what you want. You selectively choose the car you drive, the home you live in, the clothes you wear, and the people you associate with socially. Not everything in life is in your control. But the type of person you choose to fall in love with and allow to know you is in your control. Being single, your friends may tell you "You’re too odd. i know a lasting relationship means not settling. i would like to know you and i may start by asking.what’s your name? I don’t mind having you as friend so we can see if we have something in common to share, if the chemistry will work between us...they say it take's just a 'hello' to make a friend but it takes more than that to keep one, so lets start from here. I would want you to write me back on my personal contact memotionalmelvin @ h/o/t/m/a/i/l/ com ) so we can exchange pictures and get to know each other more


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Posted on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 02:56

HI, I KNEW THIS MAN WAS A SCAmmer! HE told me his wife had died and then alarm bells rung for me, i had a gut instinct.He wrote to me sending me poetry a complete nutter i thought. Then i asked him to call me, he didnt then i said lets skype, he didnt answer me.HE kept writing to me and i wasnt interested them bcos i added him to my messenger he was online this morning so out of curiousity and confirmation i said hi bcos i hadnt heard from him in about a week and i wanted to find out if i was right. After saying hi to him he said he was in africa his mum was sick but he couldnt use his credit card out there!!!! I immediately thought let him fall in my trap lol!!!! Isaid oh let me help you do u need any money? He said to me are u sure, i replied to him and i wont repeat what i said lol but i can assure you after what i did say to him he might think twice before he trys that again! He picked the wrong woman lol!!!!!


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Posted on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 00:15

That darn Brittany has done such a Good Job I've only gotten a couple of winks from the young and beautiful women.After studying up on the 419 scam [poster picture is a guy wearing a fish on his head] and studying the scam baiters [fishing I've often been the master baiter so this winter I looked forward to being a scam baiter].Very tricky baiting scammers and the teachers say you need to be very careful because many are now going high teck and can hack you. Oh how I was looking forward to falling in "love" this winter,LMAO. An internet search for romance scam,or for scam baiter,or for 419 scam will give you much information.Search all three and your loaded with tons of useful information for not only yourself but to share with others should you choose.


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Posted on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 22:56

Quoting Conyersguy:

Great info, Smax.   I am disappointed to learn the scammers are picking their game up a level.:(

 

I'll add my thanks to Brittany (MMCounselor) and whoever else works to weed out the scammers.  Have you LOOKED at the Scammers blog she does? !!???   It is s taggering to me, the number of people they catch daily.   It is numbing to even scroll down the list !!!   I can't imagine the effort to wade through them all and catch the bad ones.

 

Thanks,

 

-CG-

 

 



Yes, indeed. Kudos to Britt for sure. She is our gem.


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 18:16

Good warning, Smax. We all need a firm reminder now and then to make us remember to take it slowly, especially when meeting in person with someone from so far out of town, they must stay the night. Put 'em in a hotel! The seemingly nicest, most attractive people can turn out to be no d**m good. Thanks, Smax. I hope everyone reads this. And I hope your friends can recover quickly from being robbed.


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 08:53

Although I agree that they do a fairly good job in removing scammers but I have noted that they are relying on other members to alert them to those type of people. So much of their effectiveness occurs post as opposed to pre. One wonders how many other horrific stories such as the one that Smax has just told that have never been heard because the person conned may have been too embarrassed to tell. For a professional site they could have an application process whereby people apply for membership and the details provided are vetted and have up to a 14 day turn around before ones application is approved or not. They are a business and it is really up to them to protect their reputation and although the problem of scammers is increasing, this is their external threat and they need to devise a strategy to counteract this growing threat, it is not good enough to over rely on members .


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 06:58

Pros!!! I do think some of the scammers are getting more sophisticated. I did a search on scams recently. Pages and pages of hits on investment/internet fraud!!!


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 06:34

@bepositive    MMcounselor does a great job.  If the rest were as dedicated...she has to catch them after the fact   if the money takers would do..  name checks would be great..  don't allow anyone to sign on with someone else's credit card.. . never allow someone to sign up without a given and surname!   simple rules for a supposed "professionals only" dating site   or at least use these rules for a "certified millionaire"   why would a millionaire have to use someone else's credit card?   if they want certification..  they have to use their own credit card and have a name check done along with the IRS forms.



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 06:13

Thanks for sharing Smax...it is always a treat to read your posts.  Scammers do come in all forms and it is sad that people purposely go out to hurt others.  They are too lazy to get a job and support themselves.  Instead, they chose to SCAM others out of what they have.

For just a few dollars a year one can join a site (and there are several) that do background checks on people.   I would rather spend these few dollars than get scammed out of thousands or worse yet have someone take my identity.  There are also sites that can verify a photo and tell you what other sites they are on.

I am sure there are plenty more stories of people getting scammed on dating sites and they all should be shared to make people aware.  MMsupport is doing a great job weeding through all the profiles and I am sure it is a daunting job.  Don't feel bad forwarding a concern to Support, they really do care and strive to maintain integrity to this site.

Be cautious, ask questions, and be safe.

Good luck in life and love.....



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 05:14

wow.  thank  u. i have   to be  careful.



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