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Posted on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 20:53

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There are about 3500 rigs drilling in the Gulf with good safety records so I don't believe that a blow off is 100% assured. I think that the environmentalists are causing wells to be drilled so far off shore and in such deep water that when something goes wrong there is virtually no way to fix the problem. Had this happenened on land or in shallower water closer to shore it would have been stopped quickly and with a minimum of damage. Where this BP rig is located is 50 miles off shore in water 1 mile deep and with the well going another 18,000' down from there. It is almost impossible to get that deep where the pressure is about 3,000 lbs. per sq. inch except with robots. I can understand why Californians don't want off shore drilling; but it is coming. If we don't drill someone else will. The Cubans are already drilling with the Chinese off the coast of Cuba. The Mexicans could start drilling just 10 miles South of San Diego any time they want. The Canadians can do the same thing on the Northern border. Anyone can go a few miles west of CA. and drill in international water. So what it boils down to is do we do the drilling ourselves and have some control over the wells or do we let the Cubans, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. etc., do it and lose all control over safety???



stop relying on oil altogether. We have the technology right now.Develope it and make the change.THAT WILL happen eventually. Your argument of lets do it before someone else does is hollow. Thats not a good reason to be willing to destroy life on such a massive scale. The GULF will take decades to recover,,ONCE they get the well topped,,if ever. That entire region will die with all the wetlands and animals and pollution in a once fertile and majestic place. GO ask the people who live there, or who had jobs in tourism or fishing. THEIR lives ARE OVER. Millions upon millions of animals will die until there is none left at all. OIL IS EVIL. Develope a viable alternative.


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Posted on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 08:25

Kudos to Pat for getting MM to repair this blog. It's been a week since the last post and nothing has changed. The well is still leaking. Government officials are still impotent and BP is still lying to the public. Though up today their stock has dropped almost $10 in the last week.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 19:45

This certainly puts the devastation in proper perspective. If the link disappears, just Google "If it was my home.com [no spaces]. Second listing you'll get.

Pat Quoting billzeke

I don't know how long MM will leave this up but it compares the size of the oil spill to your home town with an overlay. Very dramatic...



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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 14:12

I don't know how long MM will leave this up but it compares the size of the oil spill to your home town with an overlay. Very dramatic...

http://www.beowulfe.com/oil/



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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 13:45

The fact is this Corp has a long history of skirting existing laws and rules and doing risk/cost analysis before making these decisions which have already cost people their lives. The longer this goes on the more comes out about the sleaziness of this corp. This just highlights how we cannot allow these corps. to operate without the right combination of oversight and regulations.


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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 11:22

Quoting SassnClass

Honestly this has got to be one of the more depressing stories in 2010.

Does anyone know whether other oil companies put petty differences/profits aside to offer additional solutions? I'm hearing even after this is resolved we're talking another 20-30 years before the spills affects on the region are cleared. smh...Everyone connected to this disaster should pay.


I think they are trying to get the best minds in the world together to try to solve a problem that never has ocurred before. They are now talking to James Cameron; the guy that directed "Avatar" about possible solutions. That should be a good indication about how desperate they have become. The Obama administrations looks like the blind are leading the blind. There is no leadership there at all. Eric Holder appears to be dying his eye brows and mustache with crude oil every morning. Napolitano is a joke and Salazar should be fired on the spot. I don't blame them for the oil spill itself but their lack of actions since have been an exercise in incompetence and futility. How they dealt with the flooding in Nashville, TN. should have been a wake up call for everyone.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 10:51

Honestly this has got to be one of the more depressing stories in 2010.

Does anyone know whether other oil companies put petty differences/profits aside to offer additional solutions? I'm hearing even after this is resolved we're talking another 20-30 years before the spills affects on the region are cleared. smh...Everyone connected to this disaster should pay.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 06:42

There are about 3500 rigs drilling in the Gulf with good safety records so I don't believe that a blow off is 100% assured. I think that the environmentalists are causing wells to be drilled so far off shore and in such deep water that when something goes wrong there is virtually no way to fix the problem. Had this happenened on land or in shallower water closer to shore it would have been stopped quickly and with a minimum of damage. Where this BP rig is located is 50 miles off shore in water 1 mile deep and with the well going another 18,000' down from there. It is almost impossible to get that deep where the pressure is about 3,000 lbs. per sq. inch except with robots. I can understand why Californians don't want off shore drilling; but it is coming. If we don't drill someone else will. The Cubans are already drilling with the Chinese off the coast of Cuba. The Mexicans could start drilling just 10 miles South of San Diego any time they want. The Canadians can do the same thing on the Northern border. Anyone can go a few miles west of CA. and drill in international water. So what it boils down to is do we do the drilling ourselves and have some control over the wells or do we let the Cubans, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. etc., do it and lose all control over safety???



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Posted on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 22:18

i d would help regardless. Everyone who is able bodied should help do something.

I used to be heavily involved in animal rescue and rehab, Oil spills are just the worst, so many lived will perish.

This ecological nightmare is not going to stop any time soon. This is why we in california so vehemently ralllied to stop offshore drilling.

Once the drill blows, its too late and the chance of a drill blowing eventually is 100% .




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Posted on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 16:26

Once again, Bill, your levelheadedness has produced a sensible, practical solution. Too bad it would never work. Most welfare receipients I've known and know now [NOT ALL....MOST] don't want to work.

The world is so terribly out of kilter.....so askew....sometimes the latest news, whatever it is, makes me want to CMEO [that's cry my eyes out, in case I just made that up]

Pat



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