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Posted on Sat, Dec 19, 2009 16:08

There are two problems with trolls. 1. Trying to scam people person to person using personal emails. 2. Trying to destroy people or posting horrible or disgusting discussions or opinions on the blogs and forums. Here is how to fix the second problem. The forums and blogs require a approval process. Just because you are a dating site member does not allow you to post to the blogs or forums. This approval process will be controlled by the forum and blog posters,, not MM. A person could be allowed to become a blog member by submitting a simple application about themselves. Any member of the panel could approve their entry, and a majority of the member would be required to approve their removal. This method works on other sites that allow blogging in addition to being a dating site. This method would allow trolls to be eliminated by the members, not MM.


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Posted on Thu, Dec 31, 2009 04:50

Think what you will Brit, but I consider trolls and scammers a serious problem. The same for insane rants. I blog a lot, but rarely blog where you do. Now you know why.


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Posted on Thu, Dec 24, 2009 07:20

Quoting wwww12345:

Sorry Britt, but there is one very large dating site that is founded and run by just one person. The rest of the staff are volunteer monitors. In fact, two of the largest dating sites, with forums, are totally free. It cannot just be a matter of money or expense, it is a matter of the will to fix the problem. I offered a solution. Just because you paid to be a member of a dating site does not have to give you the rights to blog or use the forums. That should be a special privilege because it can impact others and even the image of your country in the world. That privilege should be monitored and earned, not a paid for right. Think of the blogs as a social newspaper. Would you want complete idiots taking up valuable space and your paying subscribers valuable time reading their insane rants in your newspaper. Of course not, you would be out of business in a week. Well, it is the same here. Hundreds of people have left blogs and dating sites because of trolls and their insane postings.


Here is another question for you WWWW---if a person joins a dating site that has the forum/blog feature available, what qualifies that person to be able to utilize those features?  Do the sites check their income, IQ, gender, race, height, weight, age, type of car they drive, their capability to speak and spell----help me out here---how do they qualify a person?

As for the newpapers not allowing insane rants for their subscribers to waste their time reading--well I disagree with you on that one.  I subscribe to the newspaper and daily I read insane rants--it is called the Editorials.

This is turning into a "Head Banger" for me.  You say you offered a solution to fix the problem, but I am not sure what the problem is that you are fixing, nor am I sure of what the solution is that you are proposing in order to fix the problem--can you clarify this a little better for me?

With the New Year approaching, you might want to give some serious consideration to the fact that you might be more content on a different site--one of those with no trolls or scammers. I find it hard to believe that such a dating site exists, but miracles do happen, so guess it is a possibility.  I would really like for you to email the name of the site you are referring to--betcha I can find ya a troll or scammer on it, if not, then I will extend my apologies to you.

Again, Merry Christmas to you!

Britt

 



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Posted on Wed, Dec 23, 2009 10:15

Quoting GentlyWoman:

I visit frequently to blogs and forums, love to read interesting topics, but never comment unless I'm thinking something worth sharing that I haven't just read 30 times. Does that make me a troll? Dang, no wonder I'm still single!


No, a blog reader is not a troll. A troll wants to cause trouble or spread misinformation about something. Readers are always welcome but we would love you even more if you would tell us what you think occasionally.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 22, 2009 15:46

Quoting wwww12345:

There are many people who are new to the blogs and do not have years of experience spotting trolls. Just look at the visitors to any blog and you will see dozens of people who viewed, but did not comment. They should be protected somehow. AND, I am on a site without trolls. The problem is easily fixed. If one joins the site, they are quickly removed. Actual bloggers are a small number, easily policed. The entire membership is much larger on dating sites, but blogger numbers are always small.


I visit frequently to blogs and forums, love to read interesting topics, but never comment unless I'm thinking something worth sharing that I haven't just read 30 times. Does that make me a troll? Dang, no wonder I'm still single!


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Posted on Tue, Dec 22, 2009 02:44

Quoting Brittany2012:

Question for ya wwww,

With this application that a person would be required to fill out, how do the members verify the information to be correct? 

I am on several blog sites (other than dating sites) and they do require approval to join by either the owner or monitors of the site and a few require that a potential member be referred by an existing member, but I have never heard of this on any dating site.  Most of the blog sites have monitors in place and when an offensive comment is place it is immediately removed and the member who posted it is reprimanded, if it continues, the member is then removed.  Unfortunately MM does not have staff enough to monitor the blog site here 24/7, so they can only rely on members reporting abuse and act accordingly.  Personally, I am not aware of any blog site that allows it's members to have the power to admit or remove other members.

When a person joins a dating site that offers the forum/blogging feature, then that person, as a member, is entitled to the use of that feature. The forum/blog feature is a part of the MM website, therefore, all members are entitled to it's use, provided they do not Violate the User Agreement. 

I would also like to clarify that Trolls and Scammers are not one in the same.  Scammers join sites to do exactly as their name implies--SCAM.  Trolls join sites to generally cause havoc, degrade others and to get attention.

Now wwww it is back to the drawing board in search of another cureall for this problem.  When you come up with it, please don't post it on the blogs for the scammers and trolls to read--LOL--just kidding ya! 

Merry Christmas to you!

Britt

 

 



Sorry Britt, but there is one very large dating site that is founded and run by just one person. The rest of the staff are volunteer monitors. In fact, two of the largest dating sites, with forums, are totally free. It cannot just be a matter of money or expense, it is a matter of the will to fix the problem. I offered a solution. Just because you paid to be a member of a dating site does not have to give you the rights to blog or use the forums. That should be a special privilege because it can impact others and even the image of your country in the world. That privilege should be monitored and earned, not a paid for right. Think of the blogs as a social newspaper. Would you want complete idiots taking up valuable space and your paying subscribers valuable time reading their insane rants in your newspaper. Of course not, you would be out of business in a week. Well, it is the same here. Hundreds of people have left blogs and dating sites because of trolls and their insane postings.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 17:05

Quoting wwww12345:

There are many people who are new to the blogs and do not have years of experience spotting trolls. Just look at the visitors to any blog and you will see dozens of people who viewed, but did not comment. They should be protected somehow. AND, I am on a site without trolls. The problem is easily fixed. If one joins the site, they are quickly removed. Actual bloggers are a small number, easily policed. The entire membership is much larger on dating sites, but blogger numbers are always small.


I have far less experience with this troll problem than all of you do, however I did have a couple of runins when I first joined MM.  I was lucky enough to have a "good guy" email me to give me a heads up on the troll issue...  Wwww, it would be terrific if new members could be protected, but on the other hand, we're all over 18 [or we're supposed to be] and I think we have to assume a certain amount of responsibility for our own welfare here.   It doesn't take very long to discover that you're being "trolled."  And I think that Tink's and Queenie's advice to just ignore them is probably the best way to get them to crawl back under their bridges.  Certainly, when we all pay no attention to them, their primary reason for blogging is foiled.

Just don't know on this one.  I think I need more experience and knowledge of how different blogs work than I currently have.    



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Posted on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 08:51

Quoting wwww12345:

There are two problems with trolls. 1. Trying to scam people person to person using personal emails. 2. Trying to destroy people or posting horrible or disgusting discussions or opinions on the blogs and forums. Here is how to fix the second problem. The forums and blogs require a approval process. Just because you are a dating site member does not allow you to post to the blogs or forums. This approval process will be controlled by the forum and blog posters,, not MM. A person could be allowed to become a blog member by submitting a simple application about themselves. Any member of the panel could approve their entry, and a majority of the member would be required to approve their removal. This method works on other sites that allow blogging in addition to being a dating site. This method would allow trolls to be eliminated by the members, not MM.


Question for ya wwww,

With this application that a person would be required to fill out, how do the members verify the information to be correct? 

I am on several blog sites (other than dating sites) and they do require approval to join by either the owner or monitors of the site and a few require that a potential member be referred by an existing member, but I have never heard of this on any dating site.  Most of the blog sites have monitors in place and when an offensive comment is place it is immediately removed and the member who posted it is reprimanded, if it continues, the member is then removed.  Unfortunately MM does not have staff enough to monitor the blog site here 24/7, so they can only rely on members reporting abuse and act accordingly.  Personally, I am not aware of any blog site that allows it's members to have the power to admit or remove other members.

When a person joins a dating site that offers the forum/blogging feature, then that person, as a member, is entitled to the use of that feature. The forum/blog feature is a part of the MM website, therefore, all members are entitled to it's use, provided they do not Violate the User Agreement. 

I would also like to clarify that Trolls and Scammers are not one in the same.  Scammers join sites to do exactly as their name implies--SCAM.  Trolls join sites to generally cause havoc, degrade others and to get attention.

Now wwww it is back to the drawing board in search of another cureall for this problem.  When you come up with it, please don't post it on the blogs for the scammers and trolls to read--LOL--just kidding ya! 

Merry Christmas to you!

Britt

 

 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 07:59

Hey there Queenie,

I have to agree with you on this one.  I still say the best way to rid the site of trolls is to IGNORE them.  They are attention getters and when that need is no longer being fulfilled they will move on.



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Posted on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 06:13

LOL. You are funny wwwws. as to the "other site".  It is no secret that they had so many trolls that they did not know what to do with them.  Maybe it has changed now...(who really cares?) but they do not have the traffic (it is not a dating site) or amount of members (much less new members)  that we have here.  In fact most dating sites have this issue. Even the ones who require verification or charge fees.  Seems those nasty cons and scammers are stealing other peoples credit card information to do this.

 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 01:32

Quoting Tinkerbelle:

4Ws ive found the best way to deal with trolls is to totally ignore them.

Im not so sure about your solution.... sounds like an entry system into an exclusive golf club and we all know where that leads to now dont we?/ LMAO



Trolls post things that cannot be ignored. If they are just whacked in the head, we can ignore them, but many other things cannot. Some lies have international implications on a site like this one.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 14:15

Quoting Queenofyourdreams:

I think that trolls and scammers will not be stopped that way.  They are on ALL the dating sites. As many of you know I made the mistake (LOL) of signing up for two affilate dating sites from this corperation.  One of them is for horse people.  We also get scammers there!  They are clueless about horses. Even the ones who have security measures and require IDs and $$$$.  Those trolls are so into making the money that they can from scamming, or toying with people that are on that community, that nothing will stop them.  Most of us can recognize them and simply choose to ingnore them.



There are many people who are new to the blogs and do not have years of experience spotting trolls. Just look at the visitors to any blog and you will see dozens of people who viewed, but did not comment. They should be protected somehow. AND, I am on a site without trolls. The problem is easily fixed. If one joins the site, they are quickly removed. Actual bloggers are a small number, easily policed. The entire membership is much larger on dating sites, but blogger numbers are always small.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 05:11

I think that trolls and scammers will not be stopped that way.  They are on ALL the dating sites. As many of you know I made the mistake (LOL) of signing up for two affilate dating sites from this corperation.  One of them is for horse people.  We also get scammers there!  They are clueless about horses. Even the ones who have security measures and require IDs and $$$$.  Those trolls are so into making the money that they can from scamming, or toying with people that are on that community, that nothing will stop them.  Most of us can recognize them and simply choose to ingnore them.



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Posted on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 02:04

4Ws ive found the best way to deal with trolls is to totally ignore them.

Im not so sure about your solution.... sounds like an entry system into an exclusive golf club and we all know where that leads to now dont we?/ LMAO



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