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Brittany2012
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Posted on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 08:22

I am getting really concerned about a possible new twist on the Nigerian scam. I am afraid that the scumbags are operating out of the UK now.

A recent member described her scam to me. The fake lover had excellent English and no strange accent on the phone. On the phone, they just "sounded like a European." The scam was that he was working on an oil rig and apparently the money was sent WU to some pickup in London .

The guy "was so busy talking to her that he caused an oil spill," and he was required to pay for it out of funds he did not have. Then the forkover. Burn. Next, he had some investment scheme, sure fire. Another forkover. Investment scheme of course goes bad and there's no payout. Second burn. Third, he needed money for a plane ticket to the US. Third forkover. He has the proverbial "accident on the way to the airport" and also just happens to suffer the proverbial "loss of laptop." Never shows on the plane. Third burn.

The twist is that the money is sent to the UK and picked up WU right there in London I assume. I refuse to believe that regular Brits are cooking up this scam until proven otherwise. This has "Nigerian scam" written all over it. Further, the "good-looking White guy" with the big oil rig income could never manage to get on a cam to show his face. Red flag - Nigerian.

Another twist is the use of apparently UK-born Brits to do the talking and typing. These guys have finally figured out that West Africa is Dodge City for most of us as far as our money and for many of us, our very conversations, is concerned. So they've shifted operations to the UK. Most of us are far less worried about WU'ing $ to the UK than to West Africa.

They've also figured out that we are onto the Nigerians . They talk and type a certain way, and we have it all figured out, from the s-y English all the way down. They've known for a long time that they needed good English speakers and writers, and in the UK, there are plenty. By using UK-born native speakers and having cash wired to the UK, they kill two birds with one stone.
As I have said many times before--NEVER SEND MONEY to anyone you have not met in person, regardless of where they are located.
Stay Safe!
Britt


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Posted on Wed, Jan 27, 2010 13:33

Quoting Ladygenesis

I am new to online dating, however, I came from a family of law enforcement officers. I was told to always do a background check. My father did a background check on every boy or men my sister and I dated. Ask lot of questions in different ways and look for the inconsistencies in their answers or fraudulent statements. If they refuse to answer basic questions, a red flag should go up in your head.



Blood tests too!!!!



Courtney :)

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Posted on Wed, Jan 27, 2010 07:04

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Hello Counselor! I was contacted by a Terry Mark who said he was German working in West Africa a so called bldg. contractor, spoke to him less than a week,...and boom asked me for money and oh just put on a show, I sent him an email in German and he didn't know what I was talking about???? I thought you were German? Busted! my friend spoke to him and said he sounded 100% African....on another occassion I had a romance for about two months with an individual, who is suppose to be a Civil Engineer, who's English is excellent he claimed he was from Germany, now he did understand German, I think? lol! he might of had Google translator open, anyway he uses words like babes, babylove, and talk to you much, much later, do you recognize maybe what nationality he may be? by those babes words plural "babes" we IM'd every night @ 10-11pm central, which he claimed in West Africa it was 5-6 am, we IM nightly for 2 mos. he never asked me for money though he claimed to be robbed @ gun point and had no money and they stole his laptop, I went off on him an accussed him of being a scammer he is hurt and said I insulted his personality, and he needs time to heal his heart because of my false accusations,I never spoke to him via phone only txt and IM, I am confused,...I have to admit I have fallen in love with him he had the same story as another guy how their most sensative body parts were their fingers and poems he was a poem writer, I traced a couple poems to he says he drops poems there as a hobby...I guess I am in denial he sent pics that I still have, just don't know? should I continue to trust him? goodness I am acting like you are Dr.Phil!...lol! I just had to let this out! and I just thought I'd ask for your advice...I read a blog here on MM havent been able to find it where a member argues that her cousin is in Africa and not all men there are scammers, so that gave me a lil' hope...am I just not seeing the big pic? ..Patience2010 {any advice will be appreciated!}


Hi Patience2010,

YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE BIG PICTURE AT ALL!

Let me see if I get this straight...you have fallen in love with a man you have never met in person or even talked to on the phone....don't you find this a little strange?  There are so many "red flags" in what you tell me about this guy.....you are definitely dealing with a scammer and you need to cut off all contact with him.  By you calling him a scammer and he claiming to be hurt by that and said that you insulted him personally is only a way the scammers use to lure you back in.  He obviously is a very patient, slow moving scammer to have not asked for money by now, but the fact that he had his laptop stolen at gun point and he has no money, is a sure sign that the request for help will soon be coming.  I would say that this is probably a scammer from Nigeria or Ghana, regardless of where he is from, he is definitely a scammer.

He obviously has succeeded in winning your heart and he now has you emotionally involved with him, so trust me on this one....his next move will be to ask for money.

Don't you find it strange that you have been chatting online and texting with this guy for 2 months now...I am certain he has professed his love for you and more than likely has even talked of marriage, but yet you have not spoken to him on the phone?  That alone is a big red flag, not to mention that he is a civil engineer, in Africa and has been robbed and has no money. 

You have not fallen in love with a REAL person.  He has found your vulnerable spot and has lured you in with the sweet talk and promise of a wonderful life with him.  Those photos he has sent are not of him, but ones he has stolen of some innocent person.  You obviously are very emotionally involved with someone who is not REAL. 

These scammers are getting very sophisticated in their techniques ....more than likely this one had someone who used good English communicating with you.  Another thing you need to keep in mind is that you are more than likely communicating with more than one scammer, they work in teams, this is their business and unfortunately they are being successful at it. 

As I have said a multitude of times, never give out your personal information to anyone that you are not sure who they are, do not go off of a dating site to communicate with anyone until you know who they are for sure.  Not only do the scammers go after money from their victims, but they are known to hack computers, steal your information and use your ID for fraudulent purposes.  You need to delete his email address and online chat ID and have no further contact with him.  He will attempt to make further contact with you, but please ignore his request.  Please take to heart what I am telling you.  I have seen what these scumbags can do their victims emotionally and financially.......so far you are lucky that you only have to heal a broken heart, but it could have been much much worse for you.

I am so sorry this has happened to you, but you will come out of it a much wiser woman.

Best wishes and stay safe!

Britt

 

 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 14, 2009 14:39

I am new to online dating, however, I came from a family of law enforcement officers. I was told to always do a background check. My father did a background check on every boy or men my sister and I dated. Ask lot of questions in different ways and look for the inconsistencies in their answers or fraudulent statements. If they refuse to answer basic questions, a red flag should go up in your head.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 12, 2009 22:53

Is Brittany2012 now Counselor?

 

I get emails like that, not on MM.  Especially for a non-profit site they pose as banks trying to get info.  The link name looks ok, however the actual link ends in .uk and not the name of the bank.

 



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Posted on Sat, Dec 12, 2009 10:37

Britt I heard from a lady who contacted me about a mamber i wrote about. She had also been a victim of this British type of scam.

I think we women are less analytical than men and tend to trust more , maybe thats the answer to why women are scammed more. We are all looking for the dream no? most women I think use their emotions first rather than joining up the physical dots



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Posted on Sat, Dec 12, 2009 06:32

You are so right on this one.  I am sure that most of us, when new to this site, did not know the difference between a scammer and a real person.  With time we do learn...Well, most of the time. Every now and than one of those really sophisticated scammers can slip by our radar.  Not often, but some of them are very convincing and can speak and write our language.  I would say that 3 out of 5 winks that come my way are scammers. As has been mentioned on this blog, they often never look at your profile.  If you are a preferred member they are winking at you when you are on the featured member list. I have found that the new South Africa is in Brazil. And then there are the Pervs. Which are the reason why I do not go to the chat line...

 

Britt. What you are doing for the folks here is wonderful. I wish you had been here to let me know about the scammers when I first joined...

 

Thank you.

 

 


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Posted on Fri, Dec 11, 2009 20:20

Quoting Counselor:

Hi Irocas,

Thanks for the comment and support.

I really don't think women fall for the scammers more than the men do.  The one thing I do believe is, women are more inclined to come forth and admit to being scammed than men are.  Over the years of working with victims, I have heard some pretty horrific stories from men that have been scammed.

Any victim of a scam is not only emotionally and financially devasted, but they are embarrassed to admit that they were so stupid to fall for the scam to begin with.  The scammers know how to play with your head and heart (this is their job), many will communicate with their victims for months before asking for money.  Regardless of the Red Flags that may continue to pop up, it is only human nature to want to believe what people tell you, especially when you think you have found the "Love of Your Life".  We all want to believe in the life long dream of finding that special someone, but unfortunately, that life long dream many times turns out to be a life long nightmare. 

Glad to see you back.

Have a great Holiday!

Britt



Good point... I guess men would be more embarrassed if they were scammed. The bottom line is don't give money to anyone you haven't actually met and definitely don't wire money to anyone.


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Posted on Fri, Dec 11, 2009 04:26

Hi Irocas,

Thanks for the comment and support.

I really don't think women fall for the scammers more than the men do.  The one thing I do believe is, women are more inclined to come forth and admit to being scammed than men are.  Over the years of working with victims, I have heard some pretty horrific stories from men that have been scammed.

Any victim of a scam is not only emotionally and financially devasted, but they are embarrassed to admit that they were so stupid to fall for the scam to begin with.  The scammers know how to play with your head and heart (this is their job), many will communicate with their victims for months before asking for money.  Regardless of the Red Flags that may continue to pop up, it is only human nature to want to believe what people tell you, especially when you think you have found the "Love of Your Life".  We all want to believe in the life long dream of finding that special someone, but unfortunately, that life long dream many times turns out to be a life long nightmare. 

Glad to see you back.

Have a great Holiday!

Britt



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Posted on Fri, Dec 11, 2009 04:07

Quoting DONTFITMOLD:

hate to tell yah Brit...but they are all over with their Addresses....I have heard from them from every Country, Continent, and Island. As you know that they take residences with USA zip codes

 

Beware out there

 

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Gosh D----so glad you told me this!!!! LMAO

I appreciate your helpfulness.

Stay safe!

Britt



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Posted on Fri, Dec 11, 2009 04:03

Quoting billzeke:

A good way to tell a possible scam is to check the "Who viewed me" link. If they are telling you how wonderful you are but have not viewed your profile chances are it's a fraud. It's hard to believe how many people get taken in by scammers. Remember the old adage.... "If it sounds too good to be true it probably is".....



Hey there BillZ,

You make a good point, but that "who's viewed me" feature can be altered too, so that is not a sure fired way to detect a scammer, but it can be helpful.

With the Holidays approaching the scumbags are stepping up their game--it is getting harder and harder to weed them out. 

Thanks for the comment and Happy Holidays to you.

Britt



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Posted on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 11:18

Hey Brit, You guys are doing a great job but it seems that the preponderance of scams are perpetuated on women. Does your experience bear that out and if so.... why are women so gullible?


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Posted on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 10:21

A good way to tell a possible scam is to check the "Who viewed me" link. If they are telling you how wonderful you are but have not viewed your profile chances are it's a fraud. It's hard to believe how many people get taken in by scammers. Remember the old adage.... "If it sounds too good to be true it probably is".....



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Posted on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 09:27

hate to tell yah Brit...but they are all over with their Addresses....I have heard from them from every Country, Continent, and Island. As you know that they take residences with USA zip codes

 

Beware out there

 

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