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Posted on Thu, Feb 28, 2008 13:27

It seems, we are faced with a bit of a conundrum, in our country. Those passionate anti-war disciples, like myself, LOL, feel a bit of frustration, when we had so hoped this war would have been over by now, and it seems is now perhaps, going to be a long road home, for our soldiers... Yet, our patriotic duty, as law abiding citizens, is to respect the wishes of our governing body, since they were elected by due process, and if they determine the Patriot Act, is necessary, to defend us against terrorists, our opinions should be secondary; and should we feel strongly opposed to this, there are proper channels, and participation in the political arena, might be something for one to consider... This next election will be crucial, to the direction our country will go in the future. We should as good citizens vote our conscience, and for better or worse, we choose our candidates... and according to the end result, I think we should either support, the choice of our democratic process, or choose another country, in which to live~ Why so important, versus our 1st ammendment rights ? We need Peace... within our country, number one... because a house divided, will soon fall... GOD BLESS AMERICA ~ I welcome, all your comments... ; )


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Posted on Wed, Mar 05, 2008 23:17

Let me put it this way. If you give the US five years to prepare against terrorist, unlimited money, unlimited manpower, a total blank check. AND then you gave me the task of moving a million pounds of explosives into the US, and exploding those munitions, I could do it. Easily. Just give me 10 properly equipped Navy Seals, Army Rangers, or Marines, and I will "get er done". If you don't believe me, ask the Seals, Rangers, or Marines. This is what our military men know - and that the public, and certain presidential candidates, don't seem to understand. Securing our borders is a joke. You have to stop the idea of terrorism, and all those who support it.


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Posted on Tue, Mar 04, 2008 05:56

run4rnr... Technology like that, would be a great deterrent, but what if it falls into the wrong hands, not too sure if I would like, living in the star trek era...


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 22:05

I heard about that, we're getting closer to Star Trek type stuff all the time. At least Star Trek talks a little about the consequences of abuse of that type of weapon in some episodes.


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 18:24

Listen to this... Just last night, not sure what channel, about 10:00PM, they had a special on that new ray gun, exactly... what I was talking about the other day. How strange is that ? Creepy ~ I hate when that happens... Anyway, with modifications, it would be perfect, to deter human trespass across our borders. They said it barely penetrates the skin, but feels like SCALDING water... WHEW!, but supposedly doesn't do serious injury... just tactile PAIN ... That, ought to work ! : 0


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 10:17

Quoting run4rnr: There's always that possibility. And its true this risk was there from the beginning, I think. And the budget deficit exceeds the cost of the war in Iraq every year. Bush has gotten Bill Clinton's budget balancing efforts way out of wack. If you recall the economy was doing well back then. That's why I think Hillary will bring that type of effort back more that most of the other candidates; that is lots of detailed work and less rhetoric. People like to blame the military on all of this while it is continually downsized. If everyone looks at the other things like health care and such that is where most of the budget is going. Up to $60 Billion in Medicare fraud can budget a large part of the military and probably keep NASA going for years.

Look at my blog on the real dangers to the US. The balance of trade is where the real money is going.


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 10:15

Quoting angelface10: wwww... No weapons of mass destruction ? Why stay ? Personally, I think 6 months after we leave, whenever we leave, we are going to leave, right ? Things will go right back, the way they were... How many lives lost and trillions later... as our economy flounders...? Senseless to me, & Ron Paul ~ * catch the snakes, as they come across the border, with that new ray gun... LOL

There were no weapons involved in 9/11 or any of the other terrorist attacks around the world. Talking about weapons of mass destruction is missing the point, unless you are talking about Iran, North Korea, Pakastine. Yes, things may go back the way they were in some sense, but their weapons, money, and strength will be greatly reduced. They no longer have planes, tanks, etc. The tribal warfare may continue forever, but this not directed toward the US. Personally I would give each tribe all the ammo they wanted and let them shoot it out. However bombs that kill civilians is another story. The terrorist are too cowardly to have a shootout and they are the ones that must die, and it looks like we will be in that battle for decades, all over the world. I have previously answered securing the border issues.


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 00:44

wwwww... Sounds like quite an impasse to me... cause they feel oppressed, because we are butting into their culture, and the Koran gives them permission to do whatever is necessary, until we are out of there... I think we will be safer here, when our troops come home... While our guys are across the globe lookin for snakes, they're going to come across that open border and bite us in the *** !


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 00:16

run4... You are exactly right...LOL These candidates adjust their platform, according to the state they're in... all except for Ron Paul LOL... His voting record never changes... How about that ~ But, if we become the North American Union, WE WILL BE A PARTY OF THREE, without Congress... Right ?


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 00:13

There's always that possibility. And its true this risk was there from the beginning, I think. And the budget deficit exceeds the cost of the war in Iraq every year. Bush has gotten Bill Clinton's budget balancing efforts way out of wack. If you recall the economy was doing well back then. That's why I think Hillary will bring that type of effort back more that most of the other candidates; that is lots of detailed work and less rhetoric. People like to blame the military on all of this while it is continually downsized. If everyone looks at the other things like health care and such that is where most of the budget is going. Up to $60 Billion in Medicare fraud can budget a large part of the military and probably keep NASA going for years.


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Posted on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 00:00

wwww... No weapons of mass destruction ? Why stay ? Personally, I think 6 months after we leave, whenever we leave, we are going to leave, right ? Things will go right back, the way they were... How many lives lost and trillions later... as our economy flounders...? Senseless to me, & Ron Paul ~ * catch the snakes, as they come across the border, with that new ray gun... LOL


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Posted on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 02:10

To say 'I will vote and then let the government do its work' is too simple under our Constitution. They pass so many laws that there will obviously be issues that were not brought up during a campaign. Candidates are known to talk in very general terms that when details come out no one may like the results. People have to pay attention just like they keep track of their bank statements (some much better than others it appears). Hillary was correct in pointing out in a speech regarding 'ideal' and reality. The Constitution's system of checks and balances helps keep anyone from gaining too much king-like power. There are amendment votes that require 67% of the vote to help protect minority rights. On the note about Iraq, we are not being responsible to just let someone say 'I will pull the troops out right away if I am elected president.' We were over 60% for going to Iraq so we have to show some responsibility with a gradual pull out to see what is happening. I good example of the past is an obvious one. We did not let the South secede to keep slavery going. That and not doing the things that led to the buildup of the South wanting to secede showed a lot of responsibility and I'm sure people could see where it was heading. In regard to supporting what the people voted for, I was originally against invading Iraq and accept that we have to show responsibility for doing that by not just dropping everything and pulling out at once. I think that we already know that everyone goes on with their own lives after the vote, unfortunately even criminals. Did I ramble too much?


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Posted on Sat, Mar 01, 2008 20:40

"the meek shall inherit the earth" The only problem with that statement is that it doesn't say when. Until then, the aggressor has the advantage. One single murderer or terrorist can tie up thousands, even ten of thousands of people trying to catch them. Sometime they get by with their crimes for 20 years and thousands are never caught. Hundreds of thousands of crimes are never solved each year. The odds are in favor of the criminal and the terrorist. Sure we catch a few, hang a few, but there are a lot more where those come from - as long as they have leaders and money. One thing I know for sure: You cannot let them win. That has been tried thousands of times in history and the people lose and die every time. No aggressor is in the game for no profit, and guess where the profit is going to come from. If he wins this game, he will be stronger and go after bigger game, and then even bigger. The feeling of power is what turns them on. You can even see it in business, but the most extreme form is in the form of war, and terrorism is the cheapest form of war. It is also the most cowardly. Cut of the head of the snakes, do whatever it takes, whatever it costs. Then the followers will disappear.


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Posted on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 22:52

Cat... This sensationalism, that seems to incorporate politics today, has fueled a binary diversion, from armchair quarterbacks, to armchair politicians... LOL. At least apathy is on the wane, and Paris and Britney, are getting a breather... Uhhh... better stop here ~ ; )


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Posted on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 21:18

Quoting Sublime_Kisses: Hello Angel, I couldn't agree more. We can fight tooth and nail for our political and social positions but once the votes have been cast, we should, for the good of the nation, support the winning side. It used to be called the "Loyal Opposition" and it's what made our country truly "United". But now it seems that this concept too, is a thing of the past. Now, the "Opposition" is non-stop and we are left with a government greatly weakened because of it. S/K

I agree with you wholeheartedly.


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Posted on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 07:38

Well... the political pundits of the media, got me rethinking our position over there, last spring... If they would just report, rather than give their slant, it would not encourage this type of thinking. Then 1st ammendment rights enter the picture, lol !!! I am with you pitchhiker, vote your candidate in, if he loses, well... Love it or Leave it, comes to mind, but to prosper, we need a humanitarian candidate, that soothes those financial and health worries, and unites the Republic, right George ! LOL : ) ps... I used to be you Kimi...wink


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Posted on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 07:14

wwww... I just felt this had the importance of a blog title, rather than comment. You make some important points.. One would think in this nuclear age, there would be some sort of beam frequency that could zap anybody, sneaking across the border, better yet, anyone caught would be sent to IRAQ, to assist the military, on the front lines.. That would slow down the flow..lol


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Posted on Thu, Feb 28, 2008 22:24

Hey Cherrieee... Not all people are political in nature, infact I think most people try to avoid any discussion about it, as it normally brings in that certain antagonistic feelings that most people don't normally feel when discussing other things like food, etc.. But comment I will, you are looking pretty as ever!! lol


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Posted on Thu, Feb 28, 2008 21:14

Hello Angel, I couldn't agree more. We can fight tooth and nail for our political and social positions but once the votes have been cast, we should, for the good of the nation, support the winning side. It used to be called the "Loyal Opposition" and it's what made our country truly "United". But now it seems that this concept too, is a thing of the past. Now, the "Opposition" is non-stop and we are left with a government greatly weakened because of it. S/K


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Posted on Thu, Feb 28, 2008 15:05

Subject: Securing our borders There are those who think we can just fall back, bring our GI's home and then just secure our borders and everything will be fine. This is absolutely impossible. We can't even stop the importation of large shipments of drugs or illegal aliens, let alone a few determined and well funded, well trained, well equipped terrorist types. So, do you go after the heads of the organizations, their home base, the head of the snake to speak, or do you worry about the tail? Here are some facts to help you decide. Please be aware that only about 1/4 mile is probably needed to sneak into the US unobserved, and probably less in heavy timber, but of course any estimate like this depends on the terrain. Fifty (50) ft. may all that is needed if you are in a ravine, etc. Mexican Border Length 1,933 miles U.S.-Canadian border, excluding Alaska, is approximately 3,987 Alaska - Canada border 1583 miles Coastline measurements are more difficult because of the effects of tides and the necessarily arbitrary decisions that must be made about measuring bays, coves, islands, and inlets leading to streams and rivers. The "general coastline" data in this report are based on large scale nautical charts, resulting in a coastline measure for the 50 states totaling 12,383 miles. Another measure using smaller scale nautical charts more than doubles this measurement to 29,093 miles, while the figures used by the NOAA in administering the Coastal Zone Management program (16 U.S.C. 1451) comes to 88,612 miles (not including the Great Lakes). Let just round the number off to 100,000 miles, and just to be crazy, lets say we need eight men per mile per shift. That means we would need about 40 men per mile every week, plus men in the rear to reinforce those men in case they were overrun. In general, you need seven to nine support troops for every troop on the front line. So that would mean we would need 40,000,000 front line men plus supporting vehicles, equipment, night vision glasses, weapons, communication equipment, housing, insurance, medical care, retirement benefits, etc. etc. If we use a factor of 7 for support troops, we are looking at about 280,000,000 in the rear, plus 40,000,000 front line, men and women. The population of the US is about 300,000,000. Then, lets be concerned about our airport arrivals from foreign countries. That might take a few more thousand men, u think? Now I am wondering who is going to work and pay for all of this. All of our people are guarding our borders,and that includes children and old folks. I AM FOR GOING AFTER THE HEAD OF THE SNAKES, in their homeland. wwww I just started a blog with the same contents as this post. You might want to reply on that blog, rather than hijack this blog.


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