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Posted on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 16:56

This blog is in response to VL's question to me in Kitten's "Abuse" blog as to how I consider him a blasphemer and what he said that made me think this. I brought it out here because the subject was hijacking my friend Elizabeth's blog and taking it off subject. Romans 14:1-6 "Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks." First I want to say that I have no objection what so ever to VisionaryLover's lifestyle. He may choose what foods he puts into or doesn't put into his body. He may have any beliefs he wishes. His beliefs are his, whether they be that unicorns still roam the earth or even if he believes aliens are observing the planet. My objections are not to his beliefs. My objections are to his teachings concerning Christianity where it blends with his "faith". First he doesn't even call my Lord and Savior, Jesus unless he uses parenthases. He calls him Joshua ben Joseph or Christ Michael of Nabadon. My bible says in Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." My Lord and Savior was named Jesus not Joshua or Michael. Nowhere in my bible, which happens to be the King James version, is he called by any other name than Jesus. In the blog VisionaryLover wrote entitled "The Great Pyramid" he made this statement: "Few actually understand its purpose nor that it is still being used for its original purpose; a temple of light. The place where Joshua ben Joseph (Jesus) was "christianed"." Jesus wasn't "christianed", he IS the Christ, the son of the living God. The entire blog of Melchizidek was wrong which is why I'm sure it was deleted. However in some of the responses made by VL there was much wrong with his understanding of the bible and it's teachings. He said: "My biggest issue with them as a faith is the great untruth about their heritage being tied to Abraham via Melchizedek. It is not true. Melchizedek was an incarnate immortal and Abraham was a Sumerian (ancestors of Adam and Eve's decendents) from the Second Garden of Eden. Neither ever crossed with any Hebrews, as they report. They have never had a covenant with "God", nor are they the "chosen people", nor was Abraham ever connected to the Hebrews. They have been polytheistic all of their history and still are in reality. They have evolved their concept of "God" based on fear and the practice of "being different". They even record their time differently than the rest of the world in order to appear important and "set apart", which they are not. Their multiple names of "God" are all from nature deity spirits or nature itself. " God seperated Abram from his people for the express purpose of creating the Hebrew nation. Genesis 17 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, And kings shall come out of thee. And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised." That was the covenant of God with Abraham who was the father of the Hebrew nation. VisionaryLover also said: "#2. Know that Faith is the ONLY REQUIREMENT for eternal salvation. There is no need for any religion nor mediators to get to the Father in heaven, including Jesus. Wow!" The bible clearly states in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." And Mark 16:16 states: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Those are the requirements of eternal salvation as written in the bible. In his blog "The Five Epochs" he wrote this of Jesus: "Joshua ben Joseph (Jesus) He was A Creator Son. An order of celestial beings that are in charge of vast knowledge of the Creator itself. They are usually rulers of universes and large domains of space. He is known as Christ Michael. He came to this planet to fulfill his "completion requirements" as the new ruler of our local universe. He had to experience each of the realms of existence within the local universe personally in order to understand each realm and be able to take over as the ruler of our local universe. Our planet was chosen as his last and final incarnation before that assignment, which he completed. He is now our local universe sovereign. He is the only incarnation actually born of a physical women ever. His mission was to teach us of the truth of the Father and to worship him. He is the only Creator Son ever to be killed upon any location within any universe. " John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." This was Jesus purpose on this planet. VisionaryLover makes a lot of statements about "Paul of Tarsus" in his blog "The Cult of Mithra" in which he accuses Paul of twisting the cult of mithra into the Roman Catholic Church. If he actually read his bible he would know that he was born Saul of Tarsus and he made career of persecuting Christians. Acts 9:1-7 says: "And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. " Saul sat in Damascus for 3 days completely blind and eating nothing until Ananias came to him after Jesus told him where to find Saul and thru Jesus he healed and baptised Saul. Saul then went about the world preaching the gospel. He wrote letters to the churches who had asked him questions concerning the faith that were later gathered together and form most of the text of the New Testament. This is the same man who sat in jail awaiting death because he would not renounce Jesus. This is the man he wants us to believe didn't know Jesus and twisted the cult of mithra into Christianity? I think not. I'd say after that experience he knew Jesus. Anyone who reads the book of Acts will see who Paul of Tarsus really was and anyone who reads the books of the New Testament will see what faith Paul held most dear. I could continue quoting his words and then quoting the bible passages that prove him wrong and his words to be blasphemy but what would that help? He will believe what he wishes to believe. He will continue to take God's word and twist it to create his own reality and he will continue to foist it off on the readers of these blogs. Nothing any of us will say will change that, not me, not Uptowngirl76, not Rib4him, not EmperessBea, no one. My objection has never been to the man but to his twisting of God's word to suit his truth. The bible has been researched for hundreds of years. The people mentioned in those works have been recorded in history. The cities are real and the ruins of many are visable. Some still exist today. Any human on the planet can go to those cities and read their histories and find the truths from the bible in the history of the word. The church that Christ started exists today as he founded it. I am a member of that church. I may not be a perfect Christian but I do not attmept to twist God's word to suit myself. Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." And so from this day, the man known as VisionaryLover ceases to exist for me. Thank you and goodnight.


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Posted on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 21:21

Dreemgirl, Jesus said "Go and sin no more." I haven't done that. I'm not sure if I have become a worse sinner since I was baptized or if I am just more aware of my sin. I see things I do without thinking and recognise the sins. Most of them those sins I've been told are the 7 deadly ones. I truly don't know that I will get to heaven. I hope I do, but I'm not going to count on it. All I can do is my best. It's just most days I don't feel like it's good enough.


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Posted on Wed, Dec 19, 2007 19:43

Elizabeth, thank you. It is in this season when we celebrate the birth of Christ (even though some people want to argue about dates and semantics and others want to abolish Christianity completely) that we need to remember to keep his words in our hearts. This is not a time to hide under bushels. This is when we need to assert our faith to ourselves and others and remember that He chose to come here knowing what He would face. He died for us. So the least I can do for him is defend him and his word and his life as it has been passed down to us thru history. I pray each day as I sit down to write here that my words will reach some who do not know Christ and make them curious to learn. I pray that those who know Christ will learn more about him and grow stronger in their faith. I pray that those who deny Him will soften their hearts and allow him in. And I will pray for your orphans that the grant proposals you write will be accepted and fill the needs of those children. Babydahl, thank you as well. If there is one thing I know it is my bible. My faith is about the only thing I have. I know I'm a sinner and I may not make it to heaven. I may not be the best example of Christianity but I am at least faithful. Christ said if you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move mountains.


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Posted on Wed, Dec 19, 2007 09:31


Re: My head is firmly above ground where my very large mouth can be heard. Mea..I LOVE that line ! Made me laugh when I read it,,,and this whole comment IS SO TRUE ! Maybe you and I should start the "Big Mouth Club". Hang tough GF...you and I calls em as we sees em. HH


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Posted on Wed, Dec 19, 2007 07:26

Re: shazbot82 write: sorry mea. Me bad.

LOL, That's okay. I will just keep blogging. I have to anyway. The perpetrator of said blog bumped it once while I was in the middle of pushing it and I had to start over. Oh well, them's the vagaries of life aren't they?


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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2007 07:31

JV I've done that before. I've pulled all blogs and responses to him but it keeps up. But you know, enough is enough, too much stinks, and when he starts smelling you just have to say something. It's like dead fish. If you leave it there and do nothing about it before it gets too bad then it will be worse when you do try to do something about it. I have exercised my phenominal powers of choice and chose to make a stand against something I find repugnant. I think it is those live and let live people who stand by and do nothing and ignore things that are offensive and morally and socially wrong hoping they will go away that allows these things to thrive. If laws had been passed immediately when stalkers were brought to the attention of the public there would be a lot more women alive today that have been murdered by stalkers. If stronger laws had been made when the plight of the world's abused and molested children had come to light there would be a lot fewer dead babies in the ground. Its that ostritch head mentality that allows repugnant things to grow. I am not an ostritch. My head is firmly above ground where my very large mouth can be heard. And those live and let live people who want to ignore it can. But I will say what needs to be said even when others think I shouldn't. I will not pull this blog. I will leave it here. Eventually it will be pushed to the back pages, but it will be there to be bumped back up when he starts again.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2007 01:25

sorry mea. Me bad.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 16:25

Shaz I spent a good hour last night blogging so I could get a certain blog off the front page and you went and commented on it. Sigh. Here I go again. Uptown that would probably be me. I would have to get high to start this fight again. Or would I have to be insane? Oh yeah. That must be it. Wasn't me toking in here.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 16:13

Sniff......is someone smoking marijuana in this blog?


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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 16:08

Re: visionarylover write: Hi Phantomea, THIS PART IS UNIMPORTANT] 1. If you go back through my blogs correctly, you will find that Jesus' name is not in parenthesis by itself, yet only around the name he was before he was born a human (Christ Michael)or his true birth name given to him by his Jewish parents (Joshua ben Jospeh). [[[[SIC-BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU WERE MEAN TO ME. YEAH YOU'VE SAID THAT TO MANY PEOPLE BEFORE]]]]] Within the New Testament, the name Jesus is used because it was the name that he was known as after his christianing. <---->>>>>THERE IS THAT RIDICULOUS WORD AGAIN. YOU DON'T CHRISTIAN PEOPLE. YOU BAPTIZE THEM AND WHY WOULD THE CHRIST NEED TO BE "CHRISTIANED". HE WAS BAPTIZED BUT NOT BY SOME SUPPOSED EGYPTIAN DIETY. HE WAS BAPTIZED BY HIS COUSIN JOHN.<<<<< If you look into the Old Testament's scripts of the Jews, you will find that the Rabbi's, his family, and his followers knew him by his birth given Jewish name of Joshua ben Joseph. Since he was Jewish and the tradition of that time was to name the sons after their father's first name, not their family name as today's Christians do. He was named Joshua ben (son of) Joseph (his father). This is common knowledge with the Hebrew world who wrote the Old Testament. Yet, it is missing from the bible. Why?>>>>>YOU KEEP SAYING OLD TESTAMENT. JESUS WASN'T BORN THEN! IN THE OLD TESTAMENT HE WAS ONLY REFERRED TO IN PROPHESY AS THE MESSIAH. HE DIDN'T HAVE A NAME THEN. THE NAME JESUS AND THE TITLE CHRIST ARE NOT MENTIONED UNTL MATTHEW 1:1 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HE WAS NAMED WHEN HE WAS BORN! READ THE BIBLE LES!!! READ IT.<<<< 2. I was not "hijacking" your friends blog on Abuse. WHINE WHINE WHINE... WE DON'T NEED A REPEAT OF THIS NONSENSE]]]]] So, your comment about me "hijacking" her blog is not true either.>>>>READ MY BLOG AGAIN LES. NO WHERE DID I ACCUSE ///YOU\\\ OF ANYTHING. I SAID AND I QUOTE "I brought it out here because the subject was hijacking my friend Elizabeth's blog and taking it off subject." THIS ISN'T ABOUT ABUSE LES. THIS IS ABOUT WHY I SAY YOU ARE A BLASPHEMER. STICK TO THE SUBJECT. 3. You will not be able to explain the reason for the name change within history because it is not within the bible texts. Yet you can find the the truth by reading the Jewish scripts or asking a Rabbi. So, if jesus was not his birth name, then where did he get it? this too is left our of the bible. >>>>PLEASE SEE THE ABOVE RESPONSE. THE POINT IS THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS WHICH IS THE ACCEPTED NAME. AND IF YOU WILL GO BACK UP THERE AND READ THE DEFINITION OF BLASPHEMY YOU WILL SEE THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I AM CALLING YOU A BLASPHEMER.<<<< Instead your stated passage of Matthew was added to it with the extreme language that God made the statement of his name. Of course, about 325 years after Jesus was dead. >>>I WAS TOLD ABOUT JESUS AND WHAT HE DID 1967 YEARS AFTER HE WAS BORN AND DIED. DOES THAT MAKE IT ANY LESS VALID BECAUSE IT WASN'T TOLD TO ME WHEN IT HAPPENED? OH, I'M SORRY BUT I HAD TO WAIT A WHILE TO BE BORN IN THIS INCARNATION.<<<< 4. You mention about the Great Pyramid and tell me that Jesus couldn't have been christinaed there nor received his name there. How do you know?>I MENTIONED YOUR BLOG ABOUT THE GREAT PYRAMID. HE COULDN'T HAVE RECEIVED HIS NAME THERE AND BEEN "CHRISTIANED" BECAUSE YOU CAN'T "CHRISTIAN" THE CHRIST! HE IS THE CHRIST THEREFORE DOESN'T NEED TO BE "CHRISTIANED" AS YOU CALL IT. WHY WOULD HE NEED SOME EGYPTIAN DIETY WHICH HE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IN THE FIRST PLACE TO MAKE HIM THE CHRIST WHEN HE IS THE CHRIST IN THE FIRST PLACE? ILLOGICAL IN THE EXTREME. You believe that he was born Jesus, yet there is much evidence within his own faith that his name was one of tradition; Joshua ben Joseph. If that is true, then how would he get his name of Jesus? It is my contention that he did receive his "christianing" from the Lords via the temple of light at Jesa (now Giza). It is not a coincidence that the name of the Jesa plateau which is where the Great Pyramid resides is both grammatically and phonetically the exact same as Jesus. >>>>IT IS YOUR CONTENTION? con?ten?tion noun 1. a struggling together in opposition; strife. 2. a striving in rivalry; competition; contest. 3. strife in debate; dispute; controversy. 4. a point contended for or affirmed in controversy. YES LES, I WOULD SAY YOU USED THE CORRECT WORD THERE. EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS IN OPPOSITION, STRIFE, RIVALRY, COMPETITION AND CONTROVERSY. BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS A COINCIDENCE IN NAMES WHEN BEFORE YOU WERE SAYING HIS NAME ISN'T JESUS. THIS STILL DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THE JESUS IS THE CHRIST AND HAS NO NEED TO "CHRISTIANED" NO MATTER WHERE IT WAS, WHICH MAKES WHAT YOU SAID WRONG.<<<<< It is also my contention that Jesus was not born a Christ as he had been before he was born; Christ Michael, but had to achieve that status as a human as a proof to the Lords of his worthiness for becoming the Sovereign of our Local Universe.>>>>SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS YOUR CONTENTION. WHERE DID YOU GET THIS CHRIST MICHAEL THING? IS THIS FROM YOUR URANTIA BOOK AGAIN? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE USED NAMES THAT YOUR CELESTIAL BEINGS HAD COME UP WITH OR FROM THEIR LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD CHRIST WHICH IS A HUMAN EARTHLING GREEK WORD MEANING ANNOINTED ONE AND THE WORD MICHAEL WHICH IS A HUMAN EARTHLING HEBREW WORD MEANING WHO IS LIKE GOD. SO INSTEAD OF USING THE NAME HE WOULD HAVE HAD IF HE WAS ONE OF YOUR WIERD URANTIA CELESTIAL BEINGS THEY TOOK TWO HUMAN WORDS FROM DIFFERENT RACES TO GIVE HIM A NAME. BIZARRE THAT DON'T YOU THINK? NOPE. HIS NAME IS JESUS AND YOU ARE A BLASPHEMER.<<<< Also, Christ Michael (Jesus)is one of about 700,000 ruling sovereigns of Local Universes in the Fathers' domain. Each are called a Christ because that is the description oftheir level of authority. He never camed to the THE Son of God. He claimed the be "A Creator Son". A Creator Son is an order of description for him and how he was created by the Father. Humans change it to Son of God. Then later, to THE Son of God. There are hundreds of thousands of Creator Sons, with some of them as Universe rulers.>>>>JESUS IS THE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. IN MATTHEW 16 JESUS ASKS THE DECIPLES WHO MEN SAY HE IS THEN HE ASKS THIS "15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven." SEEMS TO ME THAT ON THAT OCCASSION HE DID. <<<<< 5. The title of Lord is one that is of higher stature than a Christ. Melchizedek incarnated onto this earth about 2,000 years before Jesus. You will find Melchizadek in the bible, yet it will be confusing because he was an immortal in a human body. At that time, everyone knew that which is why the city that was built around him was called the "HOLY CITY";Jerusalem.>>>>JERUSELEM WAS NOT BUILT AROUND MELCHIZADEK. MELCHIZADEK WAS THE KING OF SALEM AND NOTHING MORE. THIS PERSON WAS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE ONLY THREE TIMES. ONCE IN HEBREWS WHEN HE HONORED ABRAM. ONCE IN PSALMS 110 WHEN THE PROPHESY OF JESUS IS BEING GIVEN AND HE IS CALLED A PRIEST ON THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEK. AND IN HEBREWS 7:1-2 WHERE JESUS IS ONCE AGAIN BEING LIKENED TO MELCHISEDEK AS A PRIEST. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU ATTACH SO MUCH IMPORTANCE TO HIM WHEN HE HAS SO LITTLE TO DO WITH WHAT IS GOING ON. I DIDN'T SEE THIS MELCHIZEDEK DYING FOR MY SINS. HE WASN'T NAILED TO CROSS FOR ME. HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BEAR THE BURDEN FOR MY SHORTCOMINGS. <<<< His title was a Lord and he was always called Lord Melchizedek by his followers, initates, and students. Melchizadek appeared at the same time that Abraham lived. it was Lord Melchizadek that Abraham went to study with from Ur. The term GOD was added later, as was Lord God.>>>WHAT??!!! ABRAHAM DIDN'T GO TO UR TO STUDY WITH MELCHIZEDEK. GOD TOOK ABRAHAM OUT OF UR WHERE HE WAS LIVING WITH HIS FAMILY. THIS IS WHERE HE WAS WHEN GOD SEPERATED HIM FROM HIS PEOPLE TO CREATE THE HEBREW NATION. THE ONLY TIME ABRAHAM ENCOUNTERED THIS PERSON WAS WHEN HE HAD TAKEN LOT BACK FROM CHEDORLAOMER WHO HAD TAKEN HIM CAPTIVE IN THE SACKING OF SODOM. AND THEN IT WAS FOR MELCHIZEDEK TO RECOGNISE THAT ABRAHAM WAS THE CHOSEN OF GOD. AND EXCUSE ME BUT IF YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT THIS CREATURE WAS A GOD THEN I KNOW YOU ARE SENT FROM SATAN BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.<<<< Don't you find it odd that The Lord and Abraham both existed only 4,000 years ago? And yet, it would be in the first book of the bible in Genesis. That would be cramming in a lot of people being born and nations being created in a very short period of time within the bible's text of Genesis.>>>>THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY IN THAT FIRST BOOK. BUT IS THAT A PROBLEM? IT GIVES THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD FROM ADAM TO NOAH IN THE FIRST FIVE CHAPTERS. I COULD WRITE IT HERE IN ONE PARAGRAPH. BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH YOU BEING A BLASPHEMER?<<<< So according to you, Abraham who was a Sumerian (direct descendent from Adam & Eve- not hebrew) became the leader of the Hebrews who were slaves from the Eygptian Empire, which again is older that 4,000 years ago. >>>>>WELL SINCE THE EGYPTIAN EMPIRE WAS QUITE LONG LIVED I'D SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER. BESIDES, WHEN GOD WAS MAKING HIS COVENANT WITH ABRAHAM HE INCLUDED THE SLAVERY IN EGYPT... GENESIS 15:13-14 "And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance." WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ABRAHAM? WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH THE HEBREW NATION AND THE GOD OF ABRAHAM? ARE YOU ANTI SEMITC? OF COURSE YOU ARE. YOUR EX WIFE WAS JEWISH. READ THAT IN ONE OF YOUR OWN BLOGS. THE ONE WHERE YOU WERE SLAMMING THE JEWS TOO AND CALLI


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 23:46

Mea....I have gotten his blogs removed in the past. One must find the basis of a valid complaint and USE THAT in your report of abuse. For instance, he is once again advocating that humans can live off of sunlight. That is dangerous to others. He is stating that sunlight doenst cause skin cancer when every scientist on this planet says it does.That is dangerous to others. BOTH of those avenues of "advise" fall under the realm of practicing medicine without a license. THAT IS ILLEGAL to Practice Medicine without a license, via advise given.. and MM can be held reponsible IF any memeber or reader takes his nonsense advise and ends up being harmed. Does that seem far fetched ? Not to me. IF he is allowed to continue to post blogs giving advise on nutrition, or saying the SUUN doesnt cause cancer,,,or anything else about becoming a breatharian.. I am considering turning him into the proper suthorites and have him investigated under the Fraud Laws. What he is doing is dangerous to others. He doesnt belong here making up this junk and insulting other members every time he writes a blog or a comment.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 19:38

So far Dreemgirl, every objection made to him has been in vain. When he first came he advocated many things and professed expertise in many fields yet he has not made anyone aware of his credentials although he was asked for them. People complained and were ignored or passified. Then he started advocating his dietary beliefs and people complained and were ignored or passified. Then he started his religious persecution and people complained and were ignored or passified. Then he started his gender bashing and people complained and were ignored or were passified. The most vocally against the man, who are not paying members are deleted. The paying members who are vocal are ignored or passified. Nothing works. The only thing you can do is not read his blogs. Not comment on his blogs. And if he has something on the front page you find offensive you just have to blog until it's gone and not look at the other pages. And pray that no one else comments on them and bring them back or he doesn't get a wild hair and bump them himself as he seems to be doing tonight. He has caused so much controversy with his wild ideas and his blatant disreguard for the feelings of others on this forum you would think he would be removed. But he has given them his money for the year and it looks like they don't want to have to give it back. Either that or he knows where the bodies are buried. Other paying members have been removed for less.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 09:47

Just V...since you asked, I will answer. He has offended and insulted a large number of people here, especially women. His current blogs SEEM harmless, but if allowed to continue without protest, he would quickly degenerate BACk to those thinnly veiled hate filled blogs. Many of us, myself included, attempted AT FIRST to include him and read with some interest his "thoughts". The more we did that, the more outlandish he became. When Willprt was removed, VL came back and started with his nonsense again. He makes things up. He twists things. He IS delusional. IF you want to ,,,go read all of his blogs and decide for yourself. You are an intelligent woman. But be warned, he removes any commment that he doesn agree with. and so most of his blogs have been "washed"


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 08:51

Hi, I don't know who you are, but kudos! You did exactly what I didn't take the time to do. If anyone wants to know more about the Bible, purchase the Baker Encyclopedia of Christian apologetics. It is an A-Z guide and answers many questions with historically documented information. You will not be disappointed as he, Norman Geisler, discusses view points of religious topics (including bible verses) and debates many of them. Christ had an on going debate with the Pharisees and did not say to them, "live and let live." He blasted them out of the water for their inability to understand what he was preaching..the new law. If Christ had said, while being crucified, "live and let live".....he would have been spared his life. As far as the "we are not to judge, lest we be judged" comment we are called TO judge, when others corrupt Gods purpose. The OT is filled with events of God taking his warriors into battle for his sake. Finally, the Urantia is blasphemes.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2007 07:46

Nice fish Justvisiting. The whole reason behind this blog was to cut bait. Note the title. Once it's gone that's it.


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Phantomea
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Posted on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 12:44

Iroc, had I listed every misspoken word VL wrote this blog would be too long to read and I would still be writing. I had to stop due to time and space considerations. Barbara, any time you want to discuss the bible please email me. I will give you my number and we can talk. Angelface, Isaiah 42:17-18 Dreemgirl, I am very passionate about my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I wrote this blog for exactly the reasons you stated there, that the truth come to light lest the unsuspecting be lead astray. I am not saying that my way is right and other people's ways are wrong. I don't know. I have faith that I am leading the life God wants me to lead. What I am saying is that if you twist it then people will get the wrong idea. I have friends who are not Christian. They however have encountered people who call themselves Christians who have these skewed perspectives of the bible and push them farther away from Christianity. They are making the choice not to be Christian based on the wrong message. If you are going to speak of God's word then tell the truth and let the people who are going to choose their way, choose based on truth not some twisted misshapen guide that doesn't go where the bible leads. I urge anyone who wants to know about God's love to read the bible. The truth is there for all to see. Had any of the people in Jim Jones congregation read the bible they would not have drank the koolaid. If any one in Waco had read the bible they would not have been there when the explosions took place. If anyone in Bo and Peep's conregation had read the bible they would be here making babies right now. I can spout scripture all day and tell you what the bible says, but don't take my word for it. Go find out yourselves.


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Posted on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 00:17

phantom... In parting... I find that first paragraph, very insightful... we are not to judge others... Now are we ? ~ Live & Let live ~ ...............................


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