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Posted on Sat, Nov 30, 2013 07:28

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Don't worry about he ICU cost, I'm going to sign up for Medicaid!  It's all the rage and Obama is giving some no choice.  (Like the guy that owns a 5 million dollar home and just got signed up against his wishes for Medicaid)  So I say "if you can't beat them join them"  I just wonder who's going to pay when we all are getting it for free.  Keep working Diana, someone has to pay for my ICU, right?  LOOPHOLES!!!  Got to love them!!!  :-)  I wonder if I can get on mental disability???    

 

 



Dak,

Can you please provide more information on the guy with the 5 million dollar house? I would like to verify the story.



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Posted on Fri, Nov 29, 2013 19:08

Quoting Diana3316:

Dak~

That is very good that you practice healthy eating and behaviors.....however that is still no guarentee that some illness will not befall you.  You could have a car accident.  If you want to gamble with everything that you have worked so hard for....well....I guess you can.  One trip to the ICU at $2500+/day could possibly wipe you out and you could lose everything!

 

 

From PubMed.gov published Jun 2005:

Daily costs were greatest on intensive care unit day 1 (mechanical ventilation, 10,794 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 6,667 dollars), decreased on day 2 (mechanical ventilation:, 4,796 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,496 dollars), and became stable after day 3 (mechanical ventilation, 3,968 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,184 dollars).

 



Don't worry about he ICU cost, I'm going to sign up for Medicaid!  It's all the rage and Obama is giving some no choice.  (Like the guy that owns a 5 million dollar home and just got signed up against his wishes for Medicaid)  So I say "if you can't beat them join them"  I just wonder who's going to pay when we all are getting it for free.  Keep working Diana, someone has to pay for my ICU, right?  LOOPHOLES!!!  Got to love them!!!  :-)  I wonder if I can get on mental disability???    

 

 



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Posted on Fri, Nov 29, 2013 12:31

Quoting Diana3316:

Indeed WWWW.  County hospitals are great!  I have worked at two of them in two different TX cities, including the big one here in Dallas.  I loved my work and the Drs were some of the best I've ever had the privilege to work with.  But I thought you didn't like socialism. 


In Texas the county hospitals are mostly funded by a type of insurance. Every home owner pays taxes to the Hospital District.  It is partly socialism, mostly insurance..  If you rent and don't own the home, in essance it is included in your rent..If you are low income then you are covered.  It is not a insurance program for high wage earners.
No, I don't like socialism in large doses..  Some social programs are ok, but the idea of taking from the high earners and giving to the people that don't work, but could work, is totally WRONG.. Programs to help the disabled, etc. are fine with me.. SS and Medicare are not socialist programs. They have been paid for by the taxpayer.. and many never live to collect what they paid in.   Actually they are run now as a Ponzi scheme. They should be a program such that if you never get to use SS your heirs should get back the amount paid in..To the people that never get to collect a dime, SS and Medicare are indeed socialism - or theft.



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Posted on Thu, Nov 28, 2013 22:01

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There are many charity hospitals that will take care of you in a emergency.

We have a huge county hospital here for poor people.  Probably the best trama center emergency care in the state.  Every state could have one of these..

And then there is medical bankruptcy.



Indeed WWWW.  County hospitals are great!  I have worked at two of them in two different TX cities, including the big one here in Dallas.  I loved my work and the Drs were some of the best I've ever had the privilege to work with.  But I thought you didn't like socialism. 



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Posted on Wed, Nov 27, 2013 16:49

There are many charity hospitals that will take care of you in a emergency.

We have a huge county hospital here for poor people.  It probably has the best trama center emergency care in the state.  Every state could have one of these..

And then there is medical bankruptcy.




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Posted on Wed, Nov 27, 2013 13:04

Quoting Dakota35:

Ah yes once again hell is getting very cold as we agree on something! :)  Later you will join me in my dislike of Obamcare.  I'm dropping my coverage and I'll just pay the penalty.  The American citizens are dealing with two crooks, the insurance companies and the government.  These two crooks are now in a battle in which the citizens are the looser. 

 

I don't smoke, drink, use drugs.  I eat healthy and small portions.  I exercise regularly.  I haven't been to any kind of doctor in years.  Why should I pay more for my insurance?  Why should I pay for someone that smokes, drinks, uses drugs, over-eats and/or generally lives a unhealthy lifestyle?  I don't agree with this lifestyle.  I feel that I pay more than my fair share of taxes.  My accountant (now fired) once made a mistake and I paid my taxes twice in one year, around 50K.  My business runs 7 days a week, so my weekends are sacrificed and my income is more...thus my taxes are more.  For my hard work and sacrifice, I'm rewarded by paying more in taxes.  How is it people will continue to sacrifice, work harder and longer only to be punished with increased taxes/fee/regulations?  Slowly, these people will wake up and smell the roses, either completely stopping work or slowing down.  Most have already achieve success.  At that point where will the tax dollars come from to run this country?  So what would happen if my taxes were lower?:  I would have purchase more equipment, my business would grow, my workers would be paid better.  But instead, I'm rather sure that one day, maybe sooner than later, I will shut down my business.   I will stop spending money on equipment, fuel, etc and my employees will have to find work elsewhere.  The world will never notice as I'm so small but if a million businesses shut their doors, then the world will notice.   

 

A system that punishes people for hard work and sacrifice and rewards those that do not, will ultimately fail.




Dak~

That is very good that you practice healthy eating and behaviors.....however that is still no guarentee that some illness will not befall you.  You could have a car accident.  If you want to gamble with everything that you have worked so hard for....well....I guess you can.  One trip to the ICU at $2500+/day could possibly wipe you out and you could lose everything!

 

 

From PubMed.gov published Jun 2005:

Daily costs were greatest on intensive care unit day 1 (mechanical ventilation, 10,794 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 6,667 dollars), decreased on day 2 (mechanical ventilation:, 4,796 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,496 dollars), and became stable after day 3 (mechanical ventilation, 3,968 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,184 dollars).

 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 17:01

@Dakota..  I agree with you totally.  The people that work 100 hours per week, take financial risks, are considered rich by the people that don't work, so they think you should support their laziness. What a idea.

Yes, such a socialism system will fail, they always have, they always will.    It is a total shame that the socialist libatards in this country are to ignorant to realize that fact. They are hurting their children, grandchildren, and all of their relatives children.   Totally stupid and they are the enemies of all hard working people.

 

 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:19

Quoting Diana3316:

Dak~

No foul.  I was basically playing off your words in order to start my comment and talking about people with a normal psyche.   

 

I agree with you that the human brain is complex.  Diseases affecting the brain are a serious problem and we are seeing an epidemic of incidences.   It should be a central issue/priority for our society to acquire understanding of this vital organ. 



Ah yes once again hell is getting very cold as we agree on something! :)  Later you will join me in my dislike of Obamcare.  I'm dropping my coverage and I'll just pay the penalty.  The American citizens are dealing with two crooks, the insurance companies and the government.  These two crooks are now in a battle in which the citizens are the looser. 

 

I don't smoke, drink, use drugs.  I eat healthy and small portions.  I exercise regularly.  I haven't been to any kind of doctor in years.  Why should I pay more for my insurance?  Why should I pay for someone that smokes, drinks, uses drugs, over-eats and/or generally lives a unhealthy lifestyle?  I don't agree with this lifestyle.  I feel that I pay more than my fair share of taxes.  My accountant (now fired) once made a mistake and I paid my taxes twice in one year, around 50K.  My business runs 7 days a week, so my weekends are sacrificed and my income is more...thus my taxes are more.  For my hard work and sacrifice, I'm rewarded by paying more in taxes.  How is it people will continue to sacrifice, work harder and longer only to be punished with increased taxes/fee/regulations?  Slowly, these people will wake up and smell the roses, either completely stopping work or slowing down.  Most have already achieve success.  At that point where will the tax dollars come from to run this country?  So what would happen if my taxes were lower?:  I would have purchase more equipment, my business would grow, my workers would be paid better.  But instead, I'm rather sure that one day, maybe sooner than later, I will shut down my business.   I will stop spending money on equipment, fuel, etc and my employees will have to find work elsewhere.  The world will never notice as I'm so small but if a million businesses shut their doors, then the world will notice.   

 

A system that punishes people for hard work and sacrifice and rewards those that do not, will ultimately fail.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 05:44

I would save money if I went on the exchanges rather than use my employer subsidized health care plan.  I have not switched over.  Don't yet trust the stability of the political situation.

 



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 04:44

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""""EXPERTS PREDICT close to 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare. " 

That looks like a lot more PTSD cases to me.


""""""Stan Veuger of the American Enterprise Institute said that in addition to the individual cancellations, "at least half the people on employer plans would by 2014 start losing plans as well." There are approximately 157 million employer health care policy holders.

Avik Roy of the Manhattan Institute added, "the administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the Affordable Care Act."

Last week, an analysis by the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, showed the administration anticipates half to two-thirds of small businesses would have policies canceled or be compelled to send workers onto the ObamaCare exchanges. They predicted up to 100 million small and large business policies could be canceled next year.

According to projections the administration itself issued back in July 2010, it was clear officials knew the impact of ObamaCare three years ago.

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.

"""""The reason behind the losses is that current plans don't meet the requirements of ObamaCare, which dictate that each plan must cover a list of essential benefits, whether people want them or not.

"Things like maternity care or acupuncture or extensive drug coverage," said Veuger. "And so now the law is going to force them to buy policies that they could have gotten in the past if they wanted to but they chose not to."

Some plans already have been canceled and employers are getting sticker shock at the new, higher prices under ObamaCare."""



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 04:43

""""EXPERTS PREDICT close to 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare. " 

That looks like a lot more PTSD cases to me.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 02:07

So this number of ptsd comes from what the existing cases of Iraq war and Afg war? or are you refering too the effect from obamacare if so sureing ptsd wont come from obamacare. and if your refering to the war the VA takes care of that which is seperate.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 26, 2013 02:04

He hasnt started a war all he has done is taken it from clear view are you familiar with Drones please go check and see the devistation it has left on the families while it bombs from the sky out of no where we have hundreds of these things flying around



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Posted on Mon, Nov 25, 2013 21:44

Quoting Dakota35:

 

"kicking you" That was just my way of poking fun at you, sorry if it came across wrong.  "I believe feeling happy is a controllable emotion."  You are a nurse, you know this is not true. (it may help)  The mechanics of the body and brain control our emotions.  You know that it is very complex.  Tell someone with depression and anxiety to control their emotions, simply by positive thinking.  It is impossible, because it is a malfunction of the limbic system.  Or maybe your statement was just positive thinking? :)

 


Dak~

No foul.  I was basically playing off your words in order to start my comment and talking about people with a normal psyche.   

 

I agree with you that the human brain is complex.  Diseases affecting the brain are a serious problem and we are seeing an epidemic of incidences.   It should be a central issue/priority for our society to acquire understanding of this vital organ. 



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Posted on Sun, Nov 17, 2013 03:55

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So true Sarah....which reminds me.  No matter what else Obama has or hasn't done.....He has NOT started a war.  Let me say it again.....He has NOT started a war...wrecking thousands of more lives, land and treasure!!  I'm pretty happy about that!



I am not sure if we live on the same planet. On my planet obam supported the Muslim Brotherhood, which has caused a internal war in Egypt, 58 churches burned, thousands of dead and he is now being charged by Egypt for war crimes.

He is supporting the jihadists in Syria, causing hundred of thousands of deaths.

He bombed Lybia, which now is mostly controlled by Jihadists and they have shooting matches and murders almost every day.

Al-Qaeda is now stronger than ever, all over the world.. They are at war with us, where we are at war with them or not.

He has fired most of our top combat generals and is weakening the military in almost all ways, as so stated by the joint chiefs last week in testimony before congress..We may not win the next war, we will be too weak.

I would say that obam has started a war, a war with the people of the US.

I see nothing about obam to be proud of.... period.

I live on the planet called Earth.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 21:56

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Hmmm....Ya know Dak....you can't kick me ...because I'm not down!  The truth is, that I am one lucky and generally happy woman.  Even though my birthday was yesterday and I barely noticed....I have thought many times how priveleged I am to be growing older.  So many are denied that privilege.  Just think about all the people in the Philippines whose lives have been destroyed....due to no fault of their own!!!  And they aren't the only ones...living poor and wretched lives. 

Re: my job....the down turn we are experiancing really has nothing to do with Obamacare.  My company is suffering due to Medicare cuts.  My department used to have 18 Reps that serviced our customers thoughout the United States, but after 2 rounds of layoffs and some natural attrition....we're down to 5 people.  I haven't had a raise in 2 years and doubt there will be one this year either.  Never the less, I am still way better off than so many in this world...in this country.

For those individuals that want to leave our country because they don't want to pay taxes?  Well...They're not my kind!

Dak....although I don't know your specific circumstance....I do believe in the power of positive thinking.  When I feel beaten down and not particularly happy....I tell myself to shake if off and act happy.  I put a smile on my face, fluff my hair up....maybe do some dance excercise to my favorite song....and the next thing you know....ol' Jed's a millionaire.....errr....no!  :)) *wink*  I feel better! 
I believe feeling happy is a controlable emotion.
Warm wishes!



 

"kicking you" That was just my way of poking fun at you, sorry if it came across wrong.  "I believe feeling happy is a controllable emotion."  You are a nurse, you know this is not true. (it may help)  The mechanics of the body and brain control our emotions.  You know that it is very complex.  Tell someone with depression and anxiety to control their emotions, simply by positive thinking.  It is impossible, because it is a malfunction of the limbic system.  Or maybe your statement was just positive thinking? :)

 



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 21:35

Quoting Diana3316:

So true Sarah....which reminds me.  No matter what else Obama has or hasn't done.....He has NOT started a war.  Let me say it again.....He has NOT started a war...wrecking thousands of more lives, land and treasure!!  I'm pretty happy about that!



No, he's just going to allow Iran to get nukes and then try to hit Israel, then all hell will brake loose.  And just maybe North Korea, buys a nuke from Iran, attaches it to one of the new missiles they are developing and strikes the US.  How many then will die, how many more from the fall out?  Will it happen??? I don't know, but I'll be damned if I'd give anyone the chance to try.  Obama, just doesn't have any balls.  Hillary needs to teach him how to grow some.  Hillary Clinton would have made a exponentially better President than Obama.  He's a joke that has no idea what he is even doing.  He has no skills in anything other than being a snake oil sales man.  He damn good at lying and making people believe him.  But now people are beginning to see him for what he is. (Except for you Diana)  :)

 

There would be no need to send troops over to Iran to get the job done.  A few missiles and I think we could persuade them. (I'd just assassinate the leaders)  Or if we had a strong leader only a threat would be needed.  The world ain't all rainbows and lollypops, there are people out there that if given the power would wipe the US off the planet.  As technology is shared with the world, the likelihood of someone gaining that power is pretty good.

 

Our military men and women are what have made this country great.  And we are going to let it all fall apart because we are worried about what the world thinks of us.  Get over it.  A large part of the world hates us, and that's not going to change.

 

When we developed "the bomb" that was our chance to dominate the world and create world peace, but we let the cat out of the bag.  Now there is a good possibility that man will some day destroy the world, and most of the living creatures on it.  Allowing any more countries to gain nuclear capability brings us one step closer to doomsday.  And if it took a million people to die in order to assure that doesn't happen, then that's the lesser of two evils and a price worth paying.  And I'll volunteer to be one, before you say anything. 

 

God Bless our troops!



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 18:20

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If we get involved in a war we should always support those we send. There are so many people coming back severely injured and/or with post traumatic stress disorder. These people who have put their lives on the line for us deserve decency and respect. They should be given  everything they need to be rehabilitated back in to the rest of society. I think soldiers after giving their time in the military often find it difficult to adapt to civillian life. They should get support through the transition as some end up on drugs and alcohol.

 

Sarah



So true Sarah....which reminds me.  No matter what else Obama has or hasn't done.....He has NOT started a war.  Let me say it again.....He has NOT started a war...wrecking thousands of more lives, land and treasure!!  I'm pretty happy about that!



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 10:43

If we get involved in a war we should always support those we send. There are so many people coming back severely injured and/or with post traumatic stress disorder. These people who have put their lives on the line for us deserve decency and respect. They should be given  everything they need to be rehabilitated back in to the rest of society. I think soldiers after giving their time in the military often find it difficult to adapt to civillian life. They should get support through the transition as some end up on drugs and alcohol.

 

Sarah



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Posted on Sat, Nov 16, 2013 03:49

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Hey WWWW,
I have really been trying to fiind time to answer some of your comments.  They are very interesting, but not surprising considering your resident State.  I have been just slammed at work....so busy.  If one more task is placed on my shoulders....my employer tells me to be grateful I have a job and "work smarter".....my hair may just spontaneously combust!  lolol  *wink*  (I am grateful nevertheless)

I just wanted to make a quick comment:  Single Payer is Medicare.....Single Provider is VA Healthcare.  Both just terrible programs....right?


As I stated before, neither Medicare nor VA is good enough for me.   I am thankful that I don't have to rely on someone sitting at a desk somewhere, who probably knows nothing about medicine, making my medical decisions for me.. I do have insurance, but if they refused to pay for a procedure or treatment I would just head south of the border and get it done for 1/10 of the price in the US.



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