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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 16:07

I live in a country where the word "equality" is more important than air or water. The world is becoming more and more a place where women seek equal rights with men...een cross cultures and even religions.

 

I have studied in several faculties, and once a professor and doctor who had conducted a 10-years study, told us that she studied the differences between men and womens behaviour...and that there are several differences between men both mentally and pysically, one of her experiments was giving a task to a group of women vs. to a group of men and that women got into some kind of disagreement about who and how when men just assigned the tasks on the list given to the best man for it without so much "bickering"...

 

We have all heard about the good old "cat-fight"..visually it is when two women get into some physical alteration...but then comes the verbal abuse, the bs-behind the back, the gossiping etc etc...I, being a women, have had to cut several female relationships just because I do not want to be involved in such issues...and I must admit that many times I have found being in the company of men to be more inspiring, less "catty", with less jealous vibes and more "effective" than when being with a group of females.

 

I have also noticed that "feminists" (I do not agree with such women) think they have this global right to "abuse" men in general and hate on them and show/preach huge dislikeness to men etc but I think they are being exactly or more of what they are against...so they are using and gaining on this themselves.

 

No abuse is ok - neither men against women nor women against men.

 

Im thinking about this issue right now after being in the company of a group of women how they can talk so bad stuff about men and how I have experienced the opposite with men talking admiring stuff about women (not saying it is always this way, but this is my latest experience)...

 

...and how "sisterhood" might be more tainted than we "sisters" want to admit, how equality with men is maybe very secondary to (at least according to myself) equality between and amongst women in general...that we (women) maybe need to learn a new way of being amongst eachtoher, and how to be eachothers biggest supporters more than being so picky about the general equality issue vs. men...and maybe our best teachers for this genuine sisterhood-plan might very well be the male brotherhood...;-)


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Posted on Wed, Jan 30, 2013 15:52

Rmac...oh thanks for sharing that..interesting experience...so your sisters gave you alot of new angles to work with on the female side...reminds me of when as very veyr "manly" man asked me about what I though if him..and he said.."i know you will be straight and honest but Im not going to be uspet or anything"..and our friends were surrounding us at a dinne...(this man was a distant friends friend)..so I said..Oh..I feelt that you seem to have a very feminine side to you. He and all were shocked...he DID become a bit "sadish"..but when I expleained what I meant he did understand and actually agreed..and the thing was that he was very manly to underline his male side but when he was around women or treated women he was soo genlte as if he himself was a women who understands other women...he had such balance which I think you mean,and that was unsusual...very interesting..so he told us that they used to vacation along with their cousins and they were all girls so, him and his brother with 5 other girls made him "get closer" to the female graal so to speak...he got to know alot about womens secrets and whats whys whens...we laughed alot..he laughed the most ;-)

 

And yeah..Im sure men have "secrets" of their trade which they dont want to share with us women..any you feel urged to share just now maybe? :-)))

 

By the way, I can imagine your sisters being wonderful :-)

 

I think I might add something on to this later..im very stressed and exhausted by a very busy week..excuse me...



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Posted on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:27

Quoting worldmind:

RMac oh yes its a very possible reason as it might be they need more evaluation etc...somewhat society teaches that a man should be able to stand tall and strong and solve things...you know the wild wild west scene...lone ranger etc...batman & robin...the sheriff with his deputy...the chaser with his wingman...when the female scene is about sorority...6 & the city kind of a theme...and many times when a woman is lets say brought up alone with a bunch of brothers she might too become "independant" in such matters and could sometimes finds difficulties in adjusting to the "sorority scene"...just some thoughts :-) Ah so how did you find it growing up with sisters...whats the minuses vs. the pluses? Yeah life...has a grand voice and amazing wisdom..but only if we learn to listen..which we many times fail to (and if you have solved that continous-listening puzzle then that must make you a rich man)..a human trait I guess...this eternal struggle between life & the living :-)



Pluses and Minuses:  Well I suppose I might be expected to understand women better than the average man, although I would not claim to understand them.   I did that once and got into all sorts of trouble.  I don’t think women truly want to be understood by men.  At least the small sample I was exposed to at the time did not like the idea.  They thought the whole idea was scary.  Yikes, was the common response. 

 

Also time and experience has proven that I am pretty much at sea when it comes to truly understanding women.  Anyhow, it is our differences that are interesting.   A little mystery is a good thing.

 

A big minus.  When I was first dating I tended to be overly cautions.  I took all my sisters admonitions entirely too seriously.  I tended to treat women like glass dolls, likely to break.  Oddly enough they don’t like that.  While they say they want you to be a gentleman, they also want to feel desirable and wanted. 

Some sort of balance is required.  Somehow I worked through that problem.  Raging hormones may have helped. 

 

A big plus, I truly like women.  I like them as friends and I like them as people to talk with.  Someone on the blogs postulated that at least 50 percent of the male population does not really like women.  Whatever the level, I am not part of that percentage. 

 

RMac



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Posted on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 01:31

RMac oh yes its a very possible reason as it might be they need more evaluation etc...somewhat society teaches that a man should be able to stand tall and strong and solve things...you know the wild wild west scene...lone ranger etc...batman & robin...the sheriff with his deputy...the chaser with his wingman...when the female scene is about sorority...6 & the city kind of a theme...and many times when a woman is lets say brought up alone with a bunch of brothers she might too become "independant" in such matters and could sometimes finds difficulties in adjusting to the "sorority scene"...just some thoughts :-) Ah so how did you find it growing up with sisters...whats the minuses vs. the pluses? Yeah life...has a grand voice and amazing wisdom..but only if we learn to listen..which we many times fail to (and if you have solved that continous-listening puzzle then that must make you a rich man)..a human trait I guess...this eternal struggle between life & the living :-)



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Posted on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:22

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rma22 oh yes interesting detail you are mentioning so men might be more careful as maybe when men really speak out its more of a serious matter and women speak out mostly just as a female general activity or do you think they trust more and men dont or...? I mean to say...why do you think that this difference would occur?

 

Thanks for the compliment :-)



I suppose part of the difference is that women tend to think out loud by discussing everything with other people.  Their favorite man, if he will put up with it, and especially their cadre of closest female acquaintances.   Whether they trust more or not I don’t know, they seem to need to think out loud and talk through things more than they need privacy.    

 

Growing up with a lot of sisters I learned that they really did not need me to solve problems.  They were all very bright.  They needed me to participate, to listen.   Nonetheless, I was guilty more than I wish of trying to fix whatever my wife was worrying about – she too was very bright.  She just wanted to talk. 

 

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Posted on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 00:50

rma22 oh yes interesting detail you are mentioning so men might be more careful as maybe when men really speak out its more of a serious matter and women speak out mostly just as a female general activity or do you think they trust more and men dont or...? I mean to say...why do you think that this difference would occur?

 

Thanks for the compliment :-)



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Posted on Sun, Jan 27, 2013 04:37

Jenknee...hm...haha im not going to ask for his name ::-)))



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Posted on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 19:11

Quoting worldmind:

 

Nice of you to respect their privacy...typically male? :-)


As Ive come across female friends who cant stop but telling all details about his this and his and even sexual details...but several men dont even tell their ex/girls bra-size...funny :-)

 

worldmind -- I do not know about all men.  Part of respecting a woman’s privacy is respecting your own privacy.  You cannot divulge intimate or situational details about a woman you were involved without divulging intimate or situational details about yourself.  If not directly at least by inference.     

 

Women who discuss intimate details about men they have dated are also discussing their own intimate details.  Again, at least by inference. 

 

Lovely picture.

 

RMac



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Posted on Wed, Jan 16, 2013 15:09

There is one person in particular that I would love to feel my wrath but that would mean I would be a good candidate for that TVshow called "Snapped" and the ending wouldn't be good for either one of us.  Still, it doesn't stop me from envisioning rolling him over in the parking lot,lol.



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Posted on Wed, Jan 16, 2013 13:55

Rmac22..yeah! Right..thats it..thats what they say..Oh..sure..the type of venom some women can produce must be unmatchable ;-)))

 

Nice of you to respect their privacy...typically male? :-)

 

 

As Ive come across female friends who cant stop but telling all details about his this and his and even sexual details...but several men dont even tell their ex/girls bra-size...funny :-)


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Posted on Sat, Jan 12, 2013 18:41

Quoting worldmind:

 

 

 

“….and isn’t there a passage some where I have heard in some movie about women’s anger...? “

 

 

 

worldmind -- Are you perhaps referring to the saying, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” ?    It is true by the way.  Not that I know of the fury of hell, but of the fury of women who felt scorned I know a little.   I would illustrate with stories, but the privacy even of the guilty must be respected.   

 

 

 

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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 03:02

Migliori, Come vanno le cose? Grazie for your inputs and sure, there are many nice things that women bring to the table for men, but unfortunately not always as nice what they bring to the table to other women..and also there has been wars and conflicts instigated by women thru out history..as women seem to many times (not always) be more analyzing, backstabbing and much more veangeful in my view (read something the other year about a girls vengeance on her ex only because he ended their relationship and got a new girlfriend)...offcourse have men caused alt of trouble but I find men having more class (in genera) than men, funny anogh, when we think of class, what pops up in our general mind is a picture of some classy lady..but in my mind a gentleman taking his hat off when that lady passes by is what pops up and "Buon Natale" :)

 

Monica, interesting what you are telling and thanks for sharing..yeah jealousy, alot of gossiping etc etc...and also I have heard similar stories many times before..and one more thing that pops into my mind on this is that several very very beautiful women often like the company of men rather than women..wonder why..hmm..;-)


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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 19:44

I worked in a place where I was the only girl for 5 years there may have been one other woman from time to time but just mostly men. I will have to say I prefer to have friendships with men rather than women just because it’s so much easier.... you don’t have the jealousy that runs wild (believe it or not I have had girlfriends get mad that I’m not spending time with them) to me it’s just too much drama to deal with and I would rather spend my time doing something more efficient then arguing with someone. Not to say that men are much better either, yes they are less likely to say nasty things about the opposite sex but in my experience they can draw up some drama and spread rumors just as much (most of the men I worked with were 30 plus I was the youngest in the office). Sisterhood isn’t something that I have had a great experience with and I enjoy having my couple close friends I have known from grade school (men) and a couple of acquaintances. It’s just not in my personality to put up with all the negativity. Also I am a social butterfly as well and am nice to everyone I meet, but I don’t always get that in return especially with women they come off as nice and then turn into these crazy people trying to always one up me (which I just politely ignore) and I always seem to get hate for being content on where I am and that I am happy and if they are not at this point in their life they now classify me as a B**** that thinks I’m better. 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 16:26

Ladies and Gentlemen (Signore e Signori, Damas y Cabaleros):

Oh the differences between men and women...are there differences?  Yes there are and "vive la diferenza".  Yeah sisterhood and brotherhood are both powerful.  Some of the challenges I've faced successfully as a member of a team of men have been truly inspirational, however, my brothers could never take the place of women...or outdo them.

Would be hard to stay motivated in a world without women.  They do challenge us with grace, class and style.  And we know they can be catty, behind-the-back schemers.  We know that, but stiill, a good woman is a great partner indeed.  We're meant to copliment each other like hand and glove.

So let me stop there, before I give away too many "trade secrets".  After all, ladies, we've got to keep at least some information we have about you "close hold" as well as keep you from finding too much out about us.  What about love and trust, you ask?  They're built over time and when they develop between two of us we know and that's dynamic, exciting and enticing.

Kudos, Worldmind.  I think you're onto something.  Keep the fire burining.  Merry Christmas, Happy Hannuka, Happy Kwanza, Happy Holidays, Happy New Yea,r Seasons Greetings and Merry Christmas to all.  Buon Natale!



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Posted on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:45

Quoting Windrider735:

Hope...    Your teachers were kind to you, mine dubbed me 'motor-mouth"!    I have a few women friends who I love like sisters that have always 'been there' whenever I needed 'em (and I for them), but for the most part I solve my own problems...always have. Not always a good thing. My mother told me my first sentence was, "By meself, Meme...I do it by meself"! It surprises me sometimes, thinking back, that she survived my childhood...raising a mule ain't easy...but it does explain why her hair turned grey so soon! Remembering my parent's patience and love did instill a profound admiration of the good parenting technics I've seen in so many of my friends. It also made me very aware of the horrible childhoods some children are forced to endure in dysfunctional families. It amazes me what awesome adults so many of them become when they started out with the deck stacked against them.     Jenkneee... California has (or used to have) many small towns with 'community spirit' in your area...but now most of them are large cities. Temecula is huge, by my standards...but then, my town is starting to look big and it only has a bit over a thousand people including the farmers. I grew up not too far from where you live, and at that time, all the towns around were small. San Bernardino was the largest one close by. Most of that area was covered with orange groves, and the last time I went out there it was housing developments. The foothills I spent my childhood roaming around have been taken over by houses. Minnesota has the type of communities you spoke of having lived in in Michigan. It was 30 below, the night our house burned in '89', yet there were friends, neighbors and total strangers pulling into the farmyard with boxes of food, clothing and offers of a place to stay before the fire trucks even had the blaze under control. The 'grapevine' communication is awesome, and there's always a few people who keep their scanners on to see what's happening. I knew most people within a 10 - 15 mile radius, but people from the churches in the town north of us showed up the next day at the friend's house where we were staying with home made quilts, bedding, food, etc. Most of the churches here have their ladies circles that get together to make quilts for emergency packages they have at the ready for such things, and the outpouring of love really makes a person feel very humble...and grateful...for the gift of being part of a community such as this. Having lived in a similar community, it has to be a difficult pill to swallow for you to not have that now. People who have never known that kind of environment don't miss it, but for someone like you, it has to be devastating. My heart goes out to you. 


Hello Windrider and thank-you so, so much for your kind words.  I'm sorry to read about your house fire. I am really sentimental about my stuff (photos,etc.) so losing any of it would be hard. What so many did for you though must have helped lift your spirits in more ways than one :)


You're right that it is devastating to have known something so wonderful and to never have it again but at least I DID have it at one time and am very thankful that I did. There is a lot that goes into that previous sentence but the nutshell version of it is that I was born & raised in Detroit. I lived on the same street for 22 years. It went from a lttle slice of Heaven to more like a bit of Hell. By the time we left, we were one of the few of the original neighbors. I literally barely made it out alive. I wouldn't trade living on Fargo for anything though.

 

 

One reason why I am into politics now and voice my concerns is because I witnessed the downfall of a once great city and I see it happening to my entire country. Our constitution is being destroyed and I can't be complacent about it.  I can't go back to my hometown for a nice visit, it is gone, nearly all the people I knew are gone. Again, I am thankful for the good memories.  I suppose I could be somewhat thankful for even the bad experiences because all my experiences made me who I am.

 

Especially after Friday's Newtown's school tragedy, I think we all need to be thankful for who we have in our lives and for whatever we do have.  Life can change in a moment and our faith may be the ONLY thing we do have that helps us get through the hard times.  I think it was you that posted the Aquinas quote about faith, it was a good one! I posted it in my thread in the forum under Quotes/Poems/Sayings. I have always said without my faith, I have nothing.


And Hoping, your story was nice about the young lady you didn't know and being there for her. You were there at the right moment and exactly what she needed right then. Isn't it great when that happens?  Which brings me to my favorite saying..

 

 

Yesterday is History

Tomorrow is a Mystery

Today is a Gift

That's why it's called The Present.

 

Merry Christmas and Best Wishes to all of you!!

 



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Posted on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 09:30

This whole discussion reminds me a bit about a lady who worked as an employee of a national organization.  It was her job to deal with the assorted personalities of the representatives of other organizations that dealt with the national one.  Over the years, she had gotten the reputation of being one tough b@%^h. 

 

Dealing with her, I found her to be fair, efficient, and competent.  We, over time, became friends. 

 

When I stepped down from my position, she expressed concern about my replacement.  She said that historically they had been mean and difficult.  I told her that my replacement was a nice man, maybe a little rough cut, but under it all a very nice person.  Told her that he was maybe not polished, bur was fair, honest, gentle, and would never knowingly hurt or insult a lady. 

 

At the same time he was concerned as her reputation throughout the organization was as I described in the first paragraph.  I told him the truth.  She was a very nice lady who if treated well responded in kind. 

 

They became fast friends, both extolling how nice the other was.

 

RMac



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 22:50

Mtnsunny...just a small one before I enter the church...I liked your inputs on this and especially for bringibg up gossip.its a major key in all this to me..I dislike such activities...talk to you later and have a splendid day! Its almost eight in the mornibg back here now..Lucia sings soon...



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 22:45

Hoping..interesting indeed..oh no..you must have misunderstood me..I know what they mean by sisterhood and hugs talks smiles and all that makeup..etc but i think it is many times false marketing and I manytimes question if a genuine of such exist other than in writing...as a so called happy go lucky sisterhood bond today many times crack tomorrow..maybe one should add "temporarily sisterhood" ;-))) I think women let their competitiveness get too much sometimes..and I have noticed how brotherhoods usually operate in another type of loyality spirit...oh..suddenly im starting to think that maybe thats one of the core reasons for the delayed female evolution or revolution..that they couldnt cope and men fed of eachother and helped eachother to more power...hmm..need to think about thisnow im soon in a church celebrating our Lucia day. Have a good one!



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 19:09

LOL @ WINDY.... So your mother raised a MULE!! HA! Yes, it is amazing what some can accomplish despite the cards stacked against them! Sheer perserverance and determination! 

 

 

 

I didn't stay in Cal long enough when last there to know much about the area. I was young and pregnant and my husband and I decided heading back East to Florida would be best- to be near his family. I will say however, I believe much of "Sister-Hood" is in our minds. 

 

 

 

WORLD, I feel sad you have never sensed a "sisterhood" before... As I stated in my Sisterhood blog, I have sensed a kinship very many times from the simple nod or encouraging words I have received from other women, to being hugged by strange women before. I have also approached women before when they were crying and been a consoling factor for a moment in their lives.

 

 

 

I am in New Orleans right now taking care of some USCG Maritime business and I had a young lady I started speaking to in the lobby cry to me a couple of nights ago. It all started with my complimentin her eyelashes and beautiful blue eyes! It ended as I held her hands and wiped her tears. We had just met and started communicating about "men." She has a nice young man in her life, (she is 25) and we started talking about her and marriage. She confessed to me she could not have children and that she had been battling cancer. Her BF spoke of marriage, but she said she did not feel it was fair to her BF she could not have children. As she cried to me, my "nurturing mother-ism" came out. I cupped her beautiful face in my hands and told her that obviously her BF loved her regardless, and that as a mother with children almost her age, the most important thing to me was their health and happiness. She should not allow her insecurities or fear to stand in the way of her moving forward with her relationship. We exchanged emails and I told her I would keep in contact and would pray for her health issues. It is my belief there are many times GOD places the right women in our lives at just the right moment when we need them. Call it "Sister-hood", Angels from Heaven, coincidences or whatever, but I am a firm believer in what I refer as "Sisterhood," even though I have had more than my share of "nastiness" at times...

 

 

 

I have a profound Faith in HOPE.... Hope rules my senses... If I should ever feel I didn't believe in the good stuff like Sisterhood, that would diminish my HOPE.... I can't have that attitude in my life.

 

 

 

As far as "Feminist" I too agree with WORLD as to "radicals." They ruin it for everyone! Many individuals just lack "BALANCE".... Those are the people I try to avoid. Much like MTSUNNY, I allow things to roll off my back. Not much shakes me... I left the home in Atlanta, though I had done nothing wrong to that woman. I held my head high and walked forward paving a new path... without her in it... 

 

 

 

Life is just too short to hold on to negative... 

 

 

 

As far as a man holding my door... I expect a man to treat me as I act.. And in public, I am always a lady.... ;) 



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 18:34

Windrider..I agree with most of what you are writing and I also find it well put.

I understand that women had to fight to get some more postition in society etc but i also think that many things are made in the wrong way, for example, women trying to be equal in places they just cant...why..there is not reason for it..just accept the facts and go on...then feminist movement is usually very radical and represented/portrayed by woman who are angry at men, and several even stop dating men...there are many aspects to all this but as you see, my prime aspect is that women should firt clean up by their own door before demanding so much more from men..I mean I think women have reached a point now that they can be independant in many ways but still the are talking about women revolution but on the other hand being upset if their date doesnt open the door or show up with flowers and pay for dinner etc etc..there is some kind of double standard...

 

Who knows, maybe a piece of the angry feminsit movement drama is caused by jealousy..being jealous of men who tend to make alot uncomplicated..rather relaxed and straight forward..something that I find many women lack...I think as I said, we maybe should learn from men rather than blame them. Women and men ARE different, I think men in general have accepted that..but I hope women can too...


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