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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 02:37

Voyager54, as I said, I lost respect for you and that si all YOU. Even if you dont seem to realize this now, you shall realize it one day.

 

Why I have mentioned that I have been an active part in you getting back on MM again after you were thrown out, has nothing to do with what you are stating (your interpretation of it is based on your veiw of the world and the people in it..obviously not a beautiful one), it is just to show a reference frame of how I have been on your side 10000% and then that you have, by being so insulting and demeaning to others and not stopping when you should have, not showing sorryness when you should have etc..you lost even MY respect...I dont think in terms of "getting that and this on my side"...I am content enough to be on my own side, with no inner conflicts or guilt of being myself, happy about it, trying my best to be a good humanbeing with whatever it contains and foremost as righteous as I can be...which means counting supporters for any reason, is a comedy in this kind of a thing and forum...

 

I have posted this and addressed you, not working hard for anything than to meet your arguments and represent other points of view, I have not even started trying, but at least I felt you should have come forward and told that your source and religion etc. instead of writing on and on again about aliens being supreme etc as if that is sometihing you are the source of such...and not telling about Van Däniken (who got into this publically in the 1960s I think) and Rael (who is a sectholder)...

 

I know very well about sects, as i have actually been involved in an organzation who SAVES people who have been brainwashed...and I have been involved in seeing the explosion of freedom and happiness when these individuals bursts out of their fanatic sect bubble and see the world from different and other point of views...discover all the beauty and possibilities the world has to offer...its very enchanting indeed.



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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 02:16

Tinkerbelle, I dont know you...and I get that you have some history with Voyager54, as he has been here for a long time and so have you -  which does not mean more than that and only that to me.


I dont see what you mean AT ALL, by saying I have strong religious belifes which are better discussed in other forums etc etc..(which I do agree with if that would be the case but on the other hand who dictates what to be discussed anywhere, we all have FREE SPEECH which is beyond siteborders I hope), this indicates that you might not entirely have been follwing what I have been saying...as I have never ever asked anyone or forced any of my beliefs on anyone...and I dont even think you (or anyone here) even KNOW the profile of my beliefs in its fullness.

 

As I have only in some spots pointed out some things I like in some belief areas and that have been in regards to several different religions and not only one specific, even though I am born Christian (as many others), and have not had any reason to give that up or doubt it, on the contrary, Im not like a person who whould go on and on about their XX belief, as I do not like extremists. I feel you might be misunderstanding my side of the table.

 

My (and others, who have written to me in private but feel they cant handle this discussion or even knwo where to start or how etc) find Voyagers activities very very isnulting and very demeaning.


From your former comments on here, it seems you do find headbutting as an important ingredient on blogs for them to be interesting enough, and love and peace for all a mere utopia...but if you find it amuzing when Voyager54 is roaming around and pointing fingers at people, calling everyone who believs in anything (BUT his Raelian/UFO stuff) stupid, and other uncalled for stuff, insulting women and calling them names and personal attacks etc (especially when you agreed that personal attacks should not be a part on here), then that says soemthing.

 

As I do not think just saying Oh Voyager..you pot-stirer..oh you..and then add some smilies...and all the times excusing EVRYTHING he says and does into him being a "non-serious pot-stiring brat" is not as I want to view people (and that is regardless of their eventual personal tragedies as all people have been thru things but it doesnt make it right when they try punshing others)...as I showed, not only told, him respect enough to meet his arguments with a serious mind (at least after I also looked lightly at it but when I noticed he is getting too much), as he is not playing around when telling people they are stupid of they dont share his point of view, insulting their od and core of life etc..that he is more intelligent than others, that he knows better etc.


Who is to judge...not you Tinkerbell, and not anyone else...but Voyager54 needs to take responsibility for what he does/says and if he could make me lose respect in him, me of all..that says it all.

 

My MAIN issue and the catapylt in my inputs on this is watching Voyager54 going on and on and on..tried to talk sense and make him understand to respect others but..no...no..no...I noticed that several people could write me in private and tell me what they felt about all this but they couldnt spit it out on here and that Voyager54 just didnt get it and I felt I needed to at least set some points and maybe he would see that his arguments are circlearguments not needed nor leading to any news etc.

 

I have an issue with people not respecting others and THAT is my issue here and not anything religious in that sense. I told Voyager54 many times that I do respect his beliefs whatever they might be, and even set out a hug call when noticing that he just kept on and on and on...but I noticed that even that didnt help and that the nicer a person was, Voyger54 became more and more disrespectful, it was like when telling him "I sent you a hug to show you niceness despite you being so rude and insulting", he found it as some kind of fuel or approval to blow even larger in his harsch attempts. That I dont find amusing what so ever, howver funlovingI am as a person. There are limits. If Voyager54 would be in a room with intelligent peole, spitting out all what he has been doing, he would have maybe been able to say 1% of all he has said on here and he would have been escorted out of the building.

 

I dont know you, and as you said, you do not have any faith, which I can respect, but then it might be harder for you to understand the point of view of a person who believes in something, either it is a duck on a stck or Abraham or who/what ever.


In this case, Voyager54 believes in Raelims and think everyone else is a brainwashed stupid ass...and I am Christian born but I respect most religions and I do not find Voyager54 believing in UFOs and aliens as supreme to be any problem, not either when a Jew is celebrating and being happy for his/her faith and so forth...I find it enriching that we have different beliefs and can live in peace in this world..but..BUT..then comes the fanatics..extremists..as Voyager54 is showing a face of, and that..then..a problem.

 

I hope you can see and appreciate my huge efforts to keep peace and also make Voyager54 calm down before I lost my respect for him when I noticed that he is lacking recpect for most.



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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 23:28

World and Voyager You are both right and you are both wrong. IMHO I do believe that this site is NOT the proper vehicle to air your religious beliefs as a kind of sermon. World , you have strong beliefs, which may be more usefully employed on a religious site where full and frank discussions may be had on your views .. A place where one can have a serious theological discussion. This place is NOT it. Not everybody has to agree with your views and even if their views veer towards fanaticism or cultism, then that is up to them and they have a right to say what they believe..... Although I suspect Voyagers writings are more of a gigantic tease together with a committed feeling. Voyager I can see why you write why you do and for me I find it quite amusing and in many ways I agree with you . Let us all enjoy the diversity of our differences, to smile at the ridiculous, and all LIGHTEN UP To be truthful, I have little or no religious feeling.... Which doesn't make me right, wrong , or less than anybody else. I find the ranting and ravings of the religious tiresome. Let people believe what they want and leave the preaching to the church both of you.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 01:25

Fishyme...HAHHAHA you are funny :-)))



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Posted on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 01:24

One thing I dislike very much and that is fanatism of ANY sort. I am considered intelligent enough to see the difference between right and wrong. I believe in respect and justice and that must forego any kind of online blog "relations".

As several of you know, I have been very patient and OVERLY nice to Voyager54 and even being a part of the actions to bring him back when he was terminated from MM because of him attacking a fellow ex-member (TexasNeuro)on here FOR HIS BELIEFS aswell and I have even put out hugs for Voyager54, to try to help heal his anger etc but a hugsystem can also become weary after being beat on for a while..and I find it very sad to feel and say that I have now lost my respect for Voyager54 as he has proven himself being entirely tactless and respectless to others beliefs (than his own offcourse), as I have reached a limit now and as I have stated on his blog where he is trying to beat believers up, that I have lost respect for him, as I do not like when innocent people are being attacked like that and insulte and it is NOT religion related, it is code of conduct related.

I posted some info on Voyager54s blog about "his" thoughts about aliens being God etc...he is attacking believers when actually being the most fanatic of them all how funny is that!...and as several of you here on my Peace blog have mentioned that peoples IDs here can be several and they can be very misleading in many ways...so FYI:


I dont know "Voyager54" in person..but I obviously know his take or not on religion etc. from what he is writing on these blogs.

I think Voyager54 should have come forward long time ago and told the proper truth about himself and "his" so called theories...it has been interesting watching how far he would go "pretending" that what he is writing here is his own thoughts and theories (however odd they might sound) and keeping on insulting peoples beliefs beyond all possible limits...and...how accidental is it that his screen name taken here on MM so many years ago being a name of an outer space related theme, "Voyager54"...and all this anger that he is conveying and declaring himself supreme etc...speaking about intelligence as if he owns that concept exclusively etc...as if he owns the key to the master palace of knowledge and we are stupid ants just roaming around with no brains etc...

The religion Voyager54 is trying to sell on here is a sect (actually declaired one of the top 10 worst sects in the world ever), which has been banned from many places on earth etc etc..and has a very suspect leader...is that leader Voyager54 himself maybe? Or maybe he is his second man in command? Or just a member of that sect...and that is called "Raelism".

Stating that advanced human scientists from another planet with 25,000 years of scientific advances created all life on Earth through DNA manipulation. These scientists, Vorilhon (the Raelist founder in 1970s) said, were originally called Elohim or "those who came from the sky".He wrote that some forty prophets in Earth's history were sent by Elohim but their messages were distorted by humans, largely because of the difference in the level of civilization between the advanced race and Earth's primitive one...but the idea that ancient astronauts actually existed is not taken seriously by most academics, and has received little or no credible attention in peer reviewed studies.Ancient astronauts have been widely used as a plot device in science fiction.

UFO religions (such as Raelism and Heavens Gate) believe in ancient and present-day contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Many of these faiths see both ancient scriptures and recent revelations as connected with the action of aliens from other planetary systems. Sociologists and psychologists have found that UFO religions have similarities which suggest that members of these groups consciously or subliminally associate enchantment with the memes of science fiction.

So...even if Voyager54 believes in this sect and is fighting with teeth and nails for their infiltration in traditions, minds, cultures even on a site like this..I have one thing to say...

GOD IS ALMIGHTY, meaning He rules the entire universe and all its activities. Otherwise we need to ask so who created those who created those who created those who created those who...as you see, a never ending story, hence necessary frames called "religion", which societies are surrounded by, important implementations/gatherers of serenity, peace of mind, dealing with concepts of life/death, sense of belonging, spiritualism etc.

Paramount concepts indeed, as it calms down otherwise the Voyager54-ish lost/angry souls and put people more at a meditative ease to better deal with the journey of life on earth.
Everything else does not matter...as I said several times before..at the end of the day, it is our own earthly and spiritual dues we need to pay. No one elses..and not all risks are worth taking.


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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 23:17

Quoting worldmind:

Fishyme...Oooyeah..you seem right alright..Fishyme..you know that there are some women who find men who know how to flick a gun most attractive dont ya? I watched such documentary long time ago..but still wonder what gun they actually meant ;-)))



LOL world,after 35 years here i've meet some of them gals.Most were better with the 1 shot cannon.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 05:08

Tinkerbelle thanks for that comment and I have noticed what you are saying and its very sad how people can go above and beyond...offcourse thats just as in real life (although its more easily avoided) there are mentally unstable people and what not, that are gaining on the "unliveness"...Ha! it would have been a fun experiment if this entire forum just turned irl for an hour and one could just walk around "(a)live" and everyone would appear as is..how many heads some here may have...ie one head per nickname..and how many would dare be as "daring" as when being screen/soundless etc...as for myself..Im just being real on here...although trying (as you recommend) to be careful about all kinds of major private exposure in my only nick...as also others on here told me stories, not only about vicious bloggers but also about scammers playing games etc..c'est la vie en MM I guess...



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Posted on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 11:20

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Windrider..im surprised..does people really keep several ids here on MM? Oh..how sleeezy and...who has such time..oh..



It's always been the same on here and other blog sites. PEOPLE CREATE TROLLS, Their alter egos if you like, either to create trouble or to voice opinions they dare not share under their own name. there have been some quite brilliant ones from time to time. my advice is this. Keep your own council. choose your friends carefully and never speak to another about issues which should remain private. As I have said before. Some use the blogs for reasons other than sharing ideas, fun and conversation. SOME have issues, SOME have evil intent. Watch your back......


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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 18:49

Mtnsunny..yeah..thats what i mean...hey Keen enough to chase blogs yeah ;-)))...see Im nice enough buy those people new ones, as long as they run away from my blogs or..yeah...trash their oh so worn MM-cry-baby runaround shoes and just relax...hm...your pile there might be an alternative so no good money is wasted on shoes needed for such "dirty" runs ;-)))



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 18:38

Fishyme...Oooyeah..you seem right alright..Fishyme..you know that there are some women who find men who know how to flick a gun most attractive dont ya? I watched such documentary long time ago..but still wonder what gun they actually meant ;-)))



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 14:33

As several of you have noticed, we are experiencing a co-blogger, Voyager, who has been here for a long while, being somehow upset..and been "picking" with several on here (note his Return to Florida blog)...I do not know the proper reason behind all this..but...I can sense that he needs a hug from us all please join in a hugout for Voyager, and lets hope he will sail away from the ocean of grief he might be stuck in and find the light...


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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 13:05

Windrider...wow..but how does people get the time!..sorry for such people and wish they will GET A LIFE!

 

By the way, I did send a private message to the G-woman people are suspecting, just being nice but asking some simple questions, and she has not answered...answer enough eyh...:-)))



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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 08:46

Some fellow members have in private messages herein, asked me to just put it out in clear on here...I have waited...but its looks like its time and seem necessary to mention it...

 

As some of you already know, silverlion, the same person who posted an entire celebration blog of his co-opinionated friend diana on the blogs - some time but so convenient after I sent him a private message saying that he should not have done so as Im a LADY after he had posted a very insulting personal comment on my blog which was logically removed, then MM told me that they have someones "running" to them about my same blog (its an older blogpost and many many people have read and enjoyed it and moved on...obviously some seem to just not be able to leave it alone), and MM apologized to me as they said when someone clicks the "abuse" button it many times automatically becomes transferred to some "invisibility locked list" and they check it and as they have alot of such, it may take long time...before MM said it can also be that pic upload or similar tech stuff...and since I do have alot of tech probs as emails etc go suddenly missing, I thought this is the case...

 

Now, still after I posted this peace blog and people are clearly united in stating STOP THE CRY-BABY RUNNING TO MM, the running seems to still go on...hmm I wonder by who/why...

 

I even removed the blocking which I actually had towards certain individuals (as It was insulting behaviour going on and I saw extreme claws trying to clutch and scratch around etc) to experiment and also see if there is peace enough in their hearts to apologize etc...but as you see...they failed the peace test.

 

It says everything. Such absence that has been going on here by some, is obviously great presence of the truth.

 

I have also noticed, as Windrider says, some odd unknown nicknames moving around on my blogs and if people can have several names, and for example that "good friend" said it clear, that people of the opposite opinion are "rattle snakes which one should keep an eye on"..then maybe thats an extra profile or ten roaming.

 

OMG!...so MM has maybe gotten itself (unknowingly offcourse) a communist secret police?? I thought we live in a free world not in former eastern Europe!

 

As I said before, If a person cant handle the heat, then dont be in my kitchen..dont read my blogs! I cant understand how my blog seems to have gottten some people running miles and miles for this, as it is more telling than anything, it means my blog hit a nail on its head and all this running shows desperation and that the blog is spot on right in major ways, otherwise one could argue his/her case and see if its waterproof...obviously its not.

 

I feel sorry for that kind of people...and can say this to them, whoever/wherever they might be;

 

Just remember all the miles you run and ran in vain on here and elsewhere, instead of running them for the truth, the right cause...and instead of trying to cover up the factual truth and try preventing free speech (which is created in favor of the prosperity for humankind), you should have ran those miles trying to reveal it...remember us when the truth hits you hard - unfortunately, that will mean it will hit everyone else as hard, and people will be looking at you asking WHY? Why did you do this to us? Why???


 

Time will show. Im sure.

 

 

Meanwhile...you keep on running...but...away from my blogs.

 

 

...and in my usual peaceful and oh so happily rich spirit, I offer to pay for your new shoes, as I suppose the ones you are still desperately using are way too O L D. *wink.


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Posted on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 01:04

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Fishyme...how can I forget to write you a note...sorry for that..rushy hours I guess...AHA..you live in the woods...hm..well..well..I think its a jungle in here sometimes, and that makes you most suited to give us all mighty good lessons of healthy survival on these sometimes cracking grounds ;-)))

 

and...thanks for the pic :-)



Umm,world,I might not be your best choice.I've got bear guns,shotgun for just everyday normal stuff.High capacity for when I'm going to be in the thick of them.Same might work well in blogs but thats just my thought.



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Posted on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 20:15

Worldmind...
 
Sometimes I read profiles for fun and yes, I've seen several...same picture and information and different usernames. Not uncommon, I've seen it on every site I've been on. Rather amusing when you stop to think about. I just figure they aren't getting bites on one and think maybe they will on the other. One site there was a man with 5 profiles, same information, but different pictures! Crazy, huh?


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Posted on Mon, Dec 10, 2012 20:03

Windrider..im surprised..does people really keep several ids here on MM? Oh..how sleeezy and...who has such time..oh..



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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 21:28

...Hm...folks...when will texasneuro and all the drama that went along with him be burried? :-)


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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 21:20

Fishyme...how can I forget to write you a note...sorry for that..rushy hours I guess...AHA..you live in the woods...hm..well..well..I think its a jungle in here sometimes, and that makes you most suited to give us all mighty good lessons of healthy survival on these sometimes cracking grounds ;-)))

 

and...thanks for the pic :-)


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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 18:46

...one thing I forgot..it is that there are thumbs-up function in every comment field here on MM-blogs, and maybe we many times just read something we like but we just pass on by without clicking that thumbs-up..I think it is a nice gesture and hope we can remember encouraging eachother by leaving a nice "appreciative" comment or just a thumbs-up click. I think we should use more of the "thumbs-up" button than the "abuse(cry baby" one ;-)))

 

It doesnt take alot to make something a happier, nicer and more peaceful place to be for all...


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Posted on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 07:30

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~ Have you folks seen that blogger , his name is Hughe Priicke...useful name in some circles I suppose. I wonder how he plans on stirring the pot...



I saw him, V...wasn't impressed. And if you say you're pulling a Texasneuro using that handle, I'll send a flock of seagulls out to track you down and poop on your deck! That stuff will eat through clothes...believe me...I know from personal experience. Had it happen several times while out after yellowtail. Don't think he poses much a threat to the tranquility of our pot! 



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