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Dakota35
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Posted on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 19:33

Quoting Voyager54:

make no mistake, The Jews created the Israel state by essentially moving onto what had been Palestinian land for a couple of thousand years...trespassing ancestorial lands is always going to cause issues. The Jews feel that God had assigned this area to them. They are not leaving. And thus is the crux of the matter...this is an area of the world where tribal fueds have gone on for centuries... as Americans, we have no concept what that kind of life is like. Basically, it's like throwing oneself back into the Stoneage!

No offense, but we need to cut loose of the entire region. If these cultures wanna go at it, kill each other in the process...knock yourselves out...that's what I think. Just leave me and my friends out of it unless you feel like being totally annihilated. And I direct that at both Muslims and Jews, any and all factions... get with the 21st century or just nuke each other and be done with it and stop wasting the time of the rest of the normal world.



Americans (British and later others) created the US by essentially moving onto what had been Indian land.  We all seemed to work it out, but we are reasonable. No it not Israel's fraught and we should not turn our back on our friends.  Voyager, many on this board defended you...TexasNeuro.  Sometimes it's nice to have friends. 



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Posted on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 11:40

Also Hamas put rocket launchers on tops of school buildings, hospitals, have headquarters near to these areas. That's how much care and respect they have for their own people. So when Israel retaliates and destroys areas where Hamas have based their weapons or headquarters, they say look at all the innocent women and children Israel have killed. Even the Palestinians blame Hamas not Israel for the death and destruction.

 

Sarah



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Posted on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 09:28

Hmmm......seems to me, that your beliefs don't make you a better person......your behavior does.



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Posted on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 09:02

God promised in his word that Israel will be victorious. The PM knows that the US is no longer the friend he had with Bush and cannot be counted on when it hits the fan. Obama tells a good story but I'm not that confident that we'd give them that much aide. Obama is evil and he said he'd side with the muslims every time. Hamas are cowards putting their weapons beside schools and playgrounds. Israel has a right to exist and defend herself and they don't like it.



Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. President Ronald Reagan

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Posted on Fri, Nov 16, 2012 09:35

If Hamas stopped firing rockets into Israel, specifically targeting civilians, Israel would not retaliate and try to specifically target Hamas. I feel sorry for the innocent people caught up in it all but have no sympathy for Hamas.

If somebody was firing rockets into the UK or America, I can't imagine our countries would put up with it. Look at the whole Iraq and Afghan fiasco.

The Palestinians do not want Israel to exist at all. Israel just wants to get on developing their economy.

 

The whole thing is very complex. Another, never ending story.

 

Sarah

 

 



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Posted on Fri, Nov 16, 2012 08:12

MAY ISRAEL GROW STRONG AND SAVE THE UNTIED STATES ASS!!

 

GOD KNOWS WE'VE CERTAINLY SAVED THEIRS A TIME OR TWO!!

 

I'm all for my ALLIES IN LIFE bettering themselves and becoming stronger individuals, (or countries..)

 

GUESS THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE IF OUR MILITARY WEREN'T CONSTANTLY BEING CUT...  

 

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DAKOTA~~ Once again... AMEN Dear! Reading your post I thought of my own life situation right now... Nasty woman I have as a roomie tried for 3 months to get me thrown out. I remained a lady, never becoming aggressive with her as she was with me. (She has been verbally and emotionally abusive to me) Well, the owners finally sent HER an eviction notice... Thennnnn.. I found my tires with screws in them THE NEXT DAY...and one went flat THE SECOND DAY.... I told the owners this seemed a little more than a coincident. Well, now we are ALL getting the boot! They are cleaning house and starting all over! I LOST MY BATTLE... for taking the high road all these months.. I say ARM YOURSELVES PEOPLE. THIS IS GONNA GET UGLY! (And I know ugly.... cuz she lives across the hall!) 

 

I DON'T BLAME ANYONE OR ANY COUNTRY TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. MAY ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES HOLD BETTER LUCK IN THEIR QUEST THAN I DID IN MINE! 



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Posted on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 21:39

I agree, V.

 

It is very sad. It seems to me that it's caveman mentality which still runs rampid not only in the Middle East, but over every culture on the planet. Not just the killing over archaic religious beliefs and differences, but killing individuals' spirits, livelihoods, health, family structures and such, and doing it in a plethora of different ways. I think it's that old paleolithic urge to conquer which obviously hasn't evolved among some of humankind. I refer to it as "troglodyte thinking and behavior". 

 

We must remember that although "troglodytism" is widespread, there is still a wide matrix of higher evolutionary thinking and behavior that is holding the world together, spreading peace, love and joy, and is bringing multitudes of great ideas into manifestation to benefit all of humankind.

 

Just my random thoughts on the subject........ BeWell..;-D



BeWell and wishing you only the best ! ..................;-D

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Posted on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 21:31

Voyager, so I agreed with you on most of your economic thesis.  But I disagree with you on this one...except for the Disney World thing...include some fast food joints and we can take over the Middle East.  Personally, I think American fast food is our most lethal weapon...make them fat, lazy, and stop up their arteries. 

 



Back to the subject.  Put yourself in Israel's shoes.  Just imagine if you were surrounded by neighbors who were insane and hell bent on destroying you and your family.  No, you can't move.  So are you going to just let them destroy you or will you fight? (self preservation is the first law of nature) If you have friends in the neighborhood will you ask for their help in watching your back...and in exchange watch their back?  The Israel military is highly trained and much more experienced in terrorist prevention and intelligence than the U.S.  All Israel ask is to live in peace, they are not threatening their neighbors, the neighbors are threatening them. 

 

You are correct in your assessment that Israel will fight back and the world knows it.  If a country f's with them, their going to hit back.  Israel's size does not allow them to be passive.  They must show their strength.  God gave the land to them, and the US is a nation of Christians (whether you like it or not) so we must defend what is right and God's will. 

 

Voyager, if your neighbors were trying to destroy you, and all you wanted to do was live peacefully on your property...then I'd be right there to defend you.  Removing religion from the equation, there is clearly are right and wrong in this case.

 

Also, there are plenty of divorces among other's beside Jewish and Muslim, so who's to say that's what caused the divorce.  Most divorces are over money, so who's to say that wasn't what it was and religion was the scapegoat?  With that said Muslims do treat their women horribly.

 

 



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Posted on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 18:45

A bit of a muddled post, I must say.

 

For one thing, Jews do not expect to find 40 virgins waiting for them in heaven; Mulsims do.

 

Beyond that, V., I'm afraid I can't make much sense out of this blog at all.  Escept for this.  If you are angry at Israel, which you seem to be, I would hope you can get over that very quickly.

 

Israel has been a grand ally since her inception.  It's only now, under Obama, that relations are strained between our two countries to the max. 

 

I, for one, hope and pray that Israel and all her citizens and leaders understand that a majority of us Americans are still in her corner even if Obama--and a hefty dose of our bloody media--are not.  I also trust that Netanyahu is smart enough to know what Obama is up to, and that O doesn't represent what a majority Americans feel. 



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