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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 23:10

Jenknee, I will write what I want to say in regards to this on my own blog, MM Peace Talks.



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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 13:59

Voyager54, when one reads your main topic post to this thread, i felt it ws interesting and thought you were talking about the middle east and some odd stuff surrounding that and we did address it earlier on the thread...about some religions being involved in violence etc and we agreed that is not ok...but then you turned all this to some kind of multi world beliefs hate spot where you started to spit out venom on us all just because we do not share you belief in UFO-religion etc. I find it sad that this topichead was interesting enough, leaving your attacks on EVERY religion on earth..as most religions are acting peacefully and have peacepreaching prophets.

 

As I said just in the beginning of your topis here, something about needing to see the difference between violent religions and peaceul etc etc....

 

As I said, when yo started shouting from the top of your lungs and disrecpecting every one who does not share your belief, and when I ACTUALLY started liking you as I dont know you and started to..that turned my picture of you upside down, as in my world, we need to be respectful and I like gentlemen..meaning a man who behaves respectful to a lady, and if she gets out of line, he will tell her in a classful and good way, every time if necessary.

 

I have never done you anything wrong, you know it, I have on the contrary been overly nice to you despite your odd remakrs now and then...but..I live in a country where we try to show respect but respect is not just receieved it is also earned, and I find it sad when you say that you dont give a shyt about me losing my respect for you..as I would have hoped that you appreciated my constanly niceness towards you and could see that when EVEN I find your actions and words so uncomfortable, and mainly on behalf of others...then i hoped you would REALIZE and not just jump higher and scream louder.

 

I can get that you have been thru alot, as have many people..but I would have hoped that you being thru alot, also would have learnt humility on that path but I can only see anger and hate.

 

To me this has NOTHING to do with religion per say, you could easily have insulted lets say chinese people or people who loves collecting barbie-dolls (as adults) or whatever...its about respcet and if you do not agree and find it bad sad or whatever, there are ways to express that..withoout insulting so many for so little.

 

I am a very loving and peaceful person but I also find justice important part of all that...and I find your actions been unjustified in many angles and your words being very bashful for no reason.

 

I hope, you can rethink about all this and find your inner strenght to actually show a remorseful spirit in the same force as you have shown the opposite.


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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 12:03

Quoting worldmind:

..I know as Im a very fast thinker and typer and a Gold member then I can post on the blogs the minute I have written it, as many of you (nongoldies) write and wait almost a day for it to appear..anyways...

 

I have a question to Jenknee...or someone else who noticed this...

 

Did you/Jenknee say anything insulting to Voyager54? If so, where is it said and what is said?



Hello Worldmind, hope you are doing well.  I think you do an excellent job on your posts from defending your positions to your detective work with the Alien Religion Sect and your English is great. I don't participate too much in the blogs and forum because it is just too time consuming for me.

 

As far as saying anything insulting to  V54, I am sure I have but it didn't start that way and I have only typed words that could be considered insulting as retaliation. My posts have only been a small dose of his own medicine.  He has followed me on several blogs to harass me and as I have previously stated, he has (or asked to have) removed entire blogs or posts of his to remove the evidence of his malicious behaviour. One to read would be titled "Having fun in Las Vegas". He removed his initial comment and stated some mistruths as to what he considered the beginning,the beginning of his vile behavior towards me.

 

If I were to get my profile deleted because I asked MM to delete him then so be it!!  As he stated , he could come back with another username but I will proceed if necessary with my request to have him removed.  I was never part of the "Bring Voyager back" or the Collective Hug group. I knew what he was from Day One but since he has personally attacked me over and over and refuses to end his acid tongue then something may have to get done!  I do believe he feeds off this and he is in his glory as he is typing whether it is lewd, crude, caustic or anything else that is negative.  I will not cater to him and question that he must have some redeeming quality, he doesn't, he has proved that over and over again and that is the bottom line.

 

 

 



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Posted on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 04:59

I find it sad that you still (even after losing my support and respcect on here), do not even see how you are insulting people by calling them stupid etc and dishoring God, which they belive in. Obviously you have huge issues and I have felt and showed you supprot and been sorry for you but I have also reached a limit where I noticed that the more sorry and nice a person is towards you, you find it being a fuze and a boost rather than a DEfuze to your insulting actions etc.

 

All what you have said is just a copy of a copy of a copy...nothing unique or new in any way whatsoever..and the fact about Mensa..well..the point is BECAUSE I have that association, I am NOT getting you and hence I SUGGEST you start teaching your cat used tricks as that I think you might be best at. As to get you I must be nuts and im not...as I said MENSA, not MENTAl Hospital.

 

Oh I remind you of your mother (with all respect to her) although, you dont know me or have even seen or met me..ow..and oh there is a dig at my Enligsh..wow...imagine..how good of English have I, that i can make myself understood and argue and comment and and and....on an all English speaking site, first time ever blogging (and my blogs have been on very varied topics, where I have share stuff I like and admire and questioned sutff etc..in an ALL NON fanatic way), even if I sometimes write much faster and via my mobile and that can result in some word letters missing etc, having people being on here JUST to read what im writing and appreciating it alot AND that if I want, I can write in MANY other languages..not anything you can do in for example Swedish Im sure...

 

...and still you cannot see how you are insulting etc..wow...amazing.Well..remember, you are the one who started  jumping and screaming and insulting peoples beliefs, God etc...not anyone else...and even if someone would have started such..you should be a gentleman...

 

I can only imagine that addiction is not easy..denial is the core...fanatics dont see it no...and you being raelian and believing in UFO-religion and to the extent to insult and jabb at others beliefs is sad..but hopefully you will heal one day or not. Your karma, your problem.

 

Oh you have been in secret places in the Vatican..and how do you know no one on here have? Do you know my story? Who I have met with and done? NO. Hence, you cannot state that NONE of us is this or that. YOU DONT KNOW.

 

Yes, many people and artists, such as the main sistine chapel painter Michelangelo, had problems in their relations to the church...his selfportrait in the Last Judgement, in the sistine chapel was telling a story, some theories say, it is of him being homosexual and not worthy being portraited as a full grown and worthy muscular male on there so he painted himself as a flayed skin carried by St. Bartolomew...his shredded skin dangling over the abyss of hell for being homosexual as that was not accepted in Catholicism.

 

I would be the first to agree, that church has been a reason to many unpleasent stuff...and I do not like priests in general...as i find that they many times do not practice what they preach or how their own prophet behaved etc...a long story regarding what I belive in or not..but..as Im NOT a fanatic..I dont need to poor it out..I have only addressed some of your stuff just recently after losing respect in you(obvioulsy I was right doing so, as you didnt even appreciate my respect anyways) and found you have crossed the line. You can believe in what you want...my issue is (agian) that you are insulting others (as several told you on here how they feel about, and others are emailing me in private her aswell) and your ways are being extreme and fanatic..it is no diffrent from people who bomb a prayers facility...you are trying to do the same but with words on here.

 

"Good Report soars and rises to heaven, for virtuous things find favor with God. Evil Report should be shown inverted, for all her works are contrary to God and tend toward hell."

 

(Leaonardo Da Vinci)


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Posted on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 13:27

Windrider dear here is something for you all...and it reminds me somewhat of what you, Windrider and also Tinkerbelle etc told me on my "MM Peace Talks" blog, about people using multiprofiles and dishonest profiles on here and the masking people are active under etc.

Windrider...as I said, I have lost respect for "Voyager54" as he crossed major limits when insulting so many for so little.

..but...I "forgot" to say this...

I have, for a while now, namned "Voyager54" a "non-religions religons fanatic" due to his extreme attacks on believers...

...but...

I have also waited for him to tell us something...admit something I have been suspecting for a while now...and that has not yet happened...

I dont know "Voyager54" in person..but I obviously know his take or not on religion etc. from what he is writing on these blogs.

I think Voyager54 should have come forward long time ago and told the proper truth about himself and his so called theories...it has been interesting watching how far he would go "pretending" that what he is writing here is his own thoughts and theories (however odd they might sound)...and...how accidental is it that his screen name taken here on MM so many years ago being a name of an outer space related theme, "Voyager54"...and all this anger that he is conveying and declaring himself supreme etc...speaking about intelligence as if he owns that concept exclusively etc...as if he owns the key to the master palace of knowledge and we are stupid ants just roaming around with no brains etc...HAHHAHA

Let me put it this way...the religion Voyager54 is trying to sell on here is a sect (actually declaired one of the top 10 worst sects in the world ever), which has been banned from many places on earth etc etc..and has a very suspect leader...is that leader Voyager54 himself maybe? Is he maybe in relaity the man on the picture im enclosing here now...and the "Voyager54" is a mere mask? Or maybe he is his second man in command? Or just a member?

Im sure Voyager54 does not need to be introduced to the following...but Im sure some fellow members on here would like to..here goes tadaaaa!

Claude Maurice Marcel Vorilhon (born 30 September 1946 in France) is the founder and leader of the UFO religion known as Raëlism. (source wikipedia)

Vorilhon began singing at a young age and soon became a sports-car journalist and test driver for his own car-racing magazine. Following what he said was an ET encounter in December 1973, he formed the Raëlian Movement and changed his name to Raël (allegedly meaning "messenger of the elohim"). He later published several books, which detail his claims of an encounter with a being called Yahveh in 1973. He traveled the world to promote his books for over 30 years.

Raels thoughts (which you might recognize from Voyager54 postings on here)

In the book Le Livre qui dit la vérité ("The Book Which Tells the Truth"), Vorilhon stated that he had an alien visitation on 13 December 1973. According to Vorilhon, in a secluded area within a French volcanic crater, an extraterrestrial being came out of a craft that had descended gently from the sky, and told him, in French, that he had come for the sole purpose of meeting with him. Vorilhon said that he was given a message by this alien and told that it was his mission to pass this message on to the people of Earth.

The book states that advanced human scientists from another planet with 25,000 years of scientific advances created all life on Earth through DNA manipulation. These scientists, Vorilhon said, were originally called Elohim or "those who came from the sky".He wrote that some forty[ prophets in Earth's history were sent by Elohim but their messages were distorted by humans, largely because of the difference in the level of civilization between the advanced race and Earth's primitive one.

...then we have other sources to such thoughts...

Some writers have proposed that intelligent extraterrestrial beings have visited Earth in antiquity or prehistory and made contact with humans. Such visitors are called ancient astronauts or ancient aliens. Proponents suggest that this contact influenced the development of human cultures, technologies and religions. A common variant of the idea is that deities from most, if not all, religions are actually extraterrestrials, and their advanced technologies were wrongly understood by primitive men as evidence of their divine status.

These proposals have been popularized, particularly in the latter half of the 20th century, by writers such as Erich von Däniken, Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, Zecharia Sitchin, Robert K. G. Temple, David Icke and Peter Kolosimo, but the idea that ancient astronauts actually existed is not taken seriously by most academics, and has received little or no credible attention in peer reviewed studies.Ancient astronauts have been widely used as a plot device in science fiction.

UFO religions (such as Raelism and Heavens Gate) believe in ancient and present-day contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Many of these faiths see both ancient scriptures and recent revelations as connected with the action of aliens from other planetary systems. Sociologists and psychologists have found that UFO religions have similarities which suggest that members of these groups consciously or subliminally associate enchantment with the memes of science fiction.

So..imagine that even if Voyager54 believes in this sect and is fighting with teeth and nails for their infiltration in traditions, minds, cultures etc..I have one thing to say...

GOD IS ALMIGHTY, meaning He rules the entire universe and all its activities. Otherwise we need to ask so who created those who created those who created those who created those who...as you see, a never ending story, hence necessary frames called "religion", which societies are surrounded by, important implementations/gatherers of serenity, peace of mind, dealing with concepts of life/death, sense of belonging, spiritualism etc.

Paramount concepts indeed, as it calms down otherwise the Voyager54-ish lost/angry souls and put people more at a meditative ease to better deal with the journey of life on earth.
Everything else does not matter...as I said several times before..at the end of the day, it is our own earthly and spiritual dues we need to pay. No one elses..and not all risks are worth taking.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 04:28

Voyager54, what seems to disjoints you from other humans is more and more obvious and there is no magic or beauty in it…and it is not you not wanting to involve yourself with other humans as you think they are a stupid crowd...obviously it must be the other way around...as fot now…I never thought I would think or say this…but having joined in and made a huge effort to shed a light on your disappearance story when you were thrown out from MM (although I dodnt even know you at all, I had just joined the blogs)and involved in bringing you back…doubting TexasNeuro and all…I see it is happening again...but now you have disrespected the hand that fed your existence here on MM, in the similar manner that you insulted TexasNeuro and he went upset with you...

 

I do not like to be wrong about people but accept that I can be, especially on Netbased forum...but after witnessing your actions and words and insults of Jenknee and all of us believers (claiming we are stupid etc) the last couple of weeks, and I’ve been patient oh so patient I must say..and even put out hugs for you and thought oh you are suffering hence you are trying to stab peoples happiness and beliefs as you are in a bad place and I tried to be patient…but I must say, I have now lost my respect for you, mainly as you are not discussing anything, you are just jumping up and down in a muppet show, jabbing in the air like some kind of war of the windmills á la Don Quijote, wearing a plastic shiny crown from 99 cents store, claiming yourself being the most supreme.

 

This kind of actions and attitude does not fly in my highly intelligent world, as I believe in respect. I could and did respect and agree/d to disagree with you (i even restrained myself from getting into a full on proof match with you, although i just gave you a tiny tiny taste of if as you just could not know when to stop), but I have to agree with Hoping, ENOUGH IS ENOOUGH..

 

I cannot respect you anymore and that is the only unique in this situation, that you managed to make your supporter on here (MM) lose respect in you...as you have crossed and are crossing several moral lines with such arrogance, ignorance and total lack of tact or sorryness. This is far beyond religious issues to me and has been for some times when witnessing your actions on here, these are issues of codes of human conduct - regardless of belief.

 

I bid you goodbye, and I say this…I will not see you in Hell (where you shall end up given we "stupid idiots" in billions are right), as my address after this life will be “Gods Grace Street, Heaven”. 


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 04:14

All what you are stating are no unique and very usual arguments by nonbeliever believers and especially nonbelievers fanatics. You are not discussing anything...you are just throwing on theory after theory ..but "what if"...doesnt cut it...as I said you can walk around making any theories up 2000 year after things happened and that doesnt change nor prove a thing..to you seeing is believing...then I suggest you burn all history books you own, if any;

 

(read online a while ago)

 

There is a great logical fallacy among Bible skeptics, atheists and those who like to challenge Christianity that says when discussing the historical aspects of the Bible “you can’t use the Bible as proof that Jesus existed. You must use non-Bible sources!!” To which this author says, “why not?” The four Gospels of the Bible are bibliographical accounts of the life of Jesus. The normal objective measure of the reliability of historical documents is: 1) The number of available copies of ancient manuscripts and 2) the time span between the original version and the date of those copies still in existence today. When examined under this standard, the Bible proves to provide a treasure trove of proof and evidence that Jesus really existed.

 

Some of the earliest manuscript fragments of the New Testament are the John Rylands Fragment, Chester Beatty Papyrus and the Bodmer Papyrus which were written between 50-100AD. Copies of these papyri were reproduced in 125-200AD, meaning that the time span between the originals and the copies still in existence today is 29 years to 130 years, putting all these manuscripts beings written anywhere from 50-100 years after the death of Jesus Christ. Now some may object and say “Hold on! These manuscripts were written years after Jesus died. There’s no way they could be reliable!” But any expert on ancient documents would disagree.

 

Let’s look at some of the more famous and universally accepted historical documents and see how they match up with the Bible:

 

Plato  — Plato wrote his works from 427-347 BC. The earliest manuscript copy of Plato’s writing in existence today was written in 900 AD. That is 1,200 years after Plato’s death! And there are only 2 copies of these manuscripts in existence.

Julius Caesar — One of the most celebrated and trusted historical figures. Caesar lived from 100-44 BC and the earliest manuscript copy of his writings dates back to 900 AD, putting our best evidence of Caesar ever existing 1,000 years after his death. And there are 10 copies of ancient manuscripts of Caesar’s Gallic Wars. So if you question the Bible based on when it was written, being “translated so many times” (it was not – we still have the same Greek manuscripts today) and still question whether Jesus existed, then you must also be really sure that Julius Caesar and Plato were completely fictional characters and never really existed.

 

Homer - Homer, who historians are not even sure ever really existed even today, is credited with writing the Iliad in ca 900 BC. The earliest manuscript copy of the Iliad dates to 400 BC. Meaning the only proof of Homer or the Iliad being accurate is from 500 years after the death of Homer. Additionally there are 643 copies of ancient manuscripts of the Iliad written over the centuries that when compared against each other by experts have a 95.3 consistency and accuracy, making it one of the most reliable and proven documents of antiquity. 

 

That is of course, until you compare it to the New Testament. The New Testament manuscripts date to less than 100 years after the death of Christ. Additionally there are over 5,600 ancient manuscript copies of the New Testament giving it more copies to a degree that dwarfs any other figure of ancient history (to view actual copies of some of these ancient manuscripts). And they have a 99% accuracy when compared to each other. The evidence is not even comparable. And it all points to Jesus Christ. The record of the life, ministry, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ has more evidence than any other person from antiquity.


...as all that ever happened thru out history can be put under the exact same theory premises as you are going for..and when you have burnt all history books including UFO believers books etc...you sit there on your supreme thrown and prove me your own existence beyond doubt...meanwhile and regardless people..billions and billions shall go on believing in their spiritual Master and Supreme being...you  call us blind stupid or whatever...att the end of the day it just proves your own blindness etc and it is your own karma you are cutting into pieces nobody elses.


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Posted on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 04:06

“I think all of you are suffering from some form of mind altering based on your lives and things in your life that have deeply affected you.” Is what you say…interesting anough this apply to yourself if anyone.

Your only outlet has been to wrap your minds around a thought...a thought that makes all of you believe that God didn’t make us all. Is what you say…interesting enough this applies to yourself if anyone.
 
 

The you pose a question: about Gods origin, who made who etc..A QUESTION which is not a question at all, as you are not willing to listen to the answer..this is actually a STATEMENT..you are claiming that humans MADE God…which means this is your personal theory which you are applying to support your own religion…or extremism is a better word. If anything, that IS the twilight zone. All you say can be reverted back at what you are, what you say etc. Most goes back to you.

 

Then you use I THINK as your prime word and spit our a lot of stuff…which you THINK…

 

(as I said before, there is nothing that clashes in the thought of a supreme being which we chose to call God and His ruling over the entire universe etc and that it means Him having superior powers is no news and how he got those powers etc is of no major relevance in this, as such speculations are a waste of a lot of time etc for no reason…


How about when you state “Your people” to us (as if Im not wrong, you have some kind of communist background connection…??) does not allow belief in God or religions…and in communist eastern Europe they forbid all of that..they conducted the exact same thought process as you are communistly showing on here…a small click of elites claimimg themselves being “the supreme” intelligent and intellectual bunch, they are right and the mass is wrong etc…oh the stupid masses that needs reformation into non believing robots…called brainwashing etc…putting too much faith in the unfaithful and are so brainwashed and cannot see or hear anything in their small sad bubble, and to me it is just a comedy all of it.

 

Yeah…your “God” is a mega supreme being who preform surgeries which are exactly perfect on millions of species all over the globe, a frog looks just like another frog on the other part of the planet (before travels could be conducted, Yeah as your supreme being could fly)...a human…an insect etc are perfectly combined..etc..and your “alien” visitor just waved his/her magic wond and put the intestines in all humans, all insects etc and ordered them to survive etc on earth for thousands of years…so..if that is your personal explanation of a “god”..then go ahead..have that sci-fi movie in your head…it doesn’t make it less of God anyways…

 

The you say that YOU CAN ASSURE US...who are you again for me to believe in more than I believe in scriptures, my Master and my God, billions of co-believers thruout history, miracles etc? Oh yeah..you are a supreme being…at least in your head.

 

Well the day has been there all day thruout history people point at heaven and talking to God…but you are still in denial…and no, if you cannot even listen to fellow people telling you their stories and even showing their miracle-experience in regards to God etc then I doubt if an animal would be able to speak to you and say the same, that you would accept that…as you would start questioning the sanity of that animal...just as you are questioning believers..and funny enough..you are not questioning your own sanity..and..hmm..you have a high IQ?

 

I have been a part of the process of IQ test creating and we all know the results are not exclusive in that way, as a humanbeing is a complex creature..and…what would you say if I told you that Im a long time member of a group called Mensa? How would you explain my intelligence in connection to my belief...that Im stupid and the IQ tests I have gone thru are just some sci-fi aswell…and what does IQ has to do with reality? With spirituality etc in the first place? So you mean if we test Mother Teresa or Dalai Lama and their IQ proves too low, then you will put them down aswell as their beliefs are not real…they are considered stupid by you..but does their believers believe in you? No.

 

And just because you yourself have not witnessed miracles (not a shock to me, as you seem so closed that a miracle would look at you and run the other way) doesn’t mean this is reality. It is your perception but those who experienced miracles, know the truth and doesn’t need to prove it to you.

 

Then just claiming that people 3000 years ago (?) didn’t even know what a pulse is, as if they never saw a person die, an animal die in their farming fields or elsewhere is just too funny…really?!! HAHAHA…they knew more about such stuff than any of us know today…if one visits more jungly people around the world, they have very interesting and in some ways even more advanced natural medical knowledge than we have on a general daily basis…so claiming that people long time ago didn’t have any idea of the difference between life and death says a lot about your “theories”.


And then..you say that we cannot believe in the scriptures, but then again, you are thru the scriptures “interpreting” that people who say Jesus resurrected did not faint, become shocked etc…I think they acted naturally, ie were shocked and most possibly fainted, but at the same time, the people who knew Jesus could not be as shocked as general people as because they knew Jesus, they knew He is the son of God and witnessed His miracle making etc so in this case they would not be as surprised as an “outsider” would be…


Voyager54..you seem very blinded by your extreme religion. I find it very odd that you are actually sitting here and proclaiming yourself as some supreme power...pointing fingers at others and in your own frame of mind actually think you are more intelligent than others...when it is just proving the exact point of what you are stating..you blindly believing in the nonbelievers religion. to such extreme.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 11:12

I have to say, V...you do have some interesting concepts I've never heard before. My mind isn't closed to exploring other ideas, but when I see the amazing (for lack of a better word) miracles that happen every day of my life, I still think there's something out there...some force or power...much greater than we are. There are still a lot of unanswered questions about this planet we live on and the universe around us that I don't think any of us have the answers to...yet. Maybe we never will. One of these days I'd love to get into a serious discussion with you about some of these ideas and hear the truth as you see it. No anger or name calling...just an exchange of thoughts. You are an original, that's for sure.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 17:14

Hi Voyager, I'm sorry, maybe I missworded my thoughts.  No, I did not become Catholic when he died.  I became Catholic eight years before he passed.  I am truly sorry that you have had such a boring representation of the Church.  I can only share what I know, and that I find the Church exciting and uplifting, in a really upside-down world right now.  So, I don't want you to be so upset with things that you totally close your heart to these thoughts.  I just thought you might find another point interesting.  Because I didn't happen to read anything similar to what I wrote to you that evening.  BTW, your dog is really cute! I envy you this week in Fla, we had a mamoth blizzard here w 15 inches of snow!  Enjoy! 



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Posted on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:40

Voyager..I am 100% sure that words of Jesus and Buddha have not killed anyone..on the contrary..they saved billions..the killin is conducted by humanbeings...as there are several state of mind angles to humans...as the one you are showing right now..you try to kill believers with your words..would those been daggers then many would die..and you are a strong believer in the not-believing religion...ultimately we have a choice..regardless of religion.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 06:02

Ariesdancer..welcome to the blogs, Im sorry for your loss but happy that you at least got to experience true love marriage etc..that is a gift not received by all. If you read what I have written on this for a time ago..I try to make Voyager see that belief doesnt have to do with hard facts black and white..it is a state of mind..a state of unexplanable angles of existence.



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Posted on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 05:53

Voyager..so thats the way you need and want to out it all down to be happy? Then fine..be yourself. You are a creation of God hence no problem in believing in yourself...many say we are a representative image of God then..yeah..be you believe in you but..it just confirms Gods existence as we are BECAUSE of God. Living proof. Thanks!



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Posted on Fri, Dec 07, 2012 22:01

Wow, Voyager, God created you! And your destiny! I became Catholic 10 years ago, for the better.  For the better of me, my soul and my salvation. Please do not delude yourself, this is far from heaven on earth. Heaven is in heaven. Earth is a test. A test of wills.  A test of morals. A test to see if you can pass thru the needles eye to get there. I am going to do everything in my power to make sure I get to the good side.  I don't even want to consider Hell at all.

Really and truly, when my husband died in the summer of 2010, I thought I would, too.  He was on a motorcycle and was hit by a leaping buck from underneath a bridge in northern Minnesota. Now that was an act of God.  It was his time. In ICU, he communicated with me just a little bit.  Just enough to know that the prayers and the rosaries were working. And they did!  I have had 4 visions of him, speaking to me of heaven and what he is doing there, and who he is seeing there.  It is just extroadinary.

So even though I have an emmence ammount of faith, these visions and dreams just knock me over.  Heaven does exist, there is a God, and I have seen angels, and St. Michael the Arch angel as well.

So please, when you read this, be aware that I would not have made it through the night except with my faith.  When you go through something of this shocking magnitude, you truly have nothing or no one else to lead you through.  So I am defying you to believe!  Merry Christmas!



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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 13:18

Just taking a look at this stirred pot... Heeheehee~~

 

VOYAGER My Love, I must tell you... (Let me find my "kindness" hat)

 

V~~ I hold NO ISSUE with you or anyone else for that matter who does not believe in God, etc.. I do not feel we are all supposed to view things in the same manner. I do however, wish to ask you a question.. Do you think I am a "stupid" person? Do you feel after all this time of knowing me in this fashion that I am a person who is easily led? What about PAT or LIV or DAKOTA or WORLD. You really thnk we are stupid individuals easily brainwashed? 

 

I don't follow "religion" per say.. But I DO hold faith in God, and to read words you use to describe me..... (and so many others here) Well, perhaps it is you who needs to be a blinded sheep. Perhaps then you might grow enough "grace" to allow you a better form of expression rather than demeaning so many others in the process of trying to convey your thoughts. When you demean others, it doesn't place you in a positive light, in fact it does quite the opposite. 

 

I can tell you... 

 

I KNOW WHAT I KNOW WHAT I KNOW... It's just that simple! 


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Posted on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 01:50

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www12345...thanks for the survival info...where about would you consider us worldwide being just now on that survival positioning pic...OH...yeah...religion has nothing to do with it :-)))


Evil pretending to be a religion is not a religion by my definition of the word.  Evil can use any excuse it wishes but it is still evil..By my definition, Islam is not a religion, it is a political system, worse than communism, hiding behind a "religion". However, that doesn't make it one. Islam is actually a  predator cult with a lot of rules to go by to accomplish Islam's mission of dominating the world.   Communism and Hitler had the same mission but Islam is a far greater threat because it already has survived 1500 years.


Worldwide, we are in great danger - from a financial meltdown  from overspending, and a  large part of the governments expenses in many countries is now fighting terrorist. The other great expense is socialism, in all of its forms.  Islam will never conquer the world but they can bankrupt it. 



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Posted on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 04:52

I dont agree with you Voyager54..and as I said lets nott get into a proof match or such heavy and old discussion..you will not be happier of it..Several religions have been "working" for thousands of years then why twitch and pinch it..just leave that alone..concentrate on the real threats ie cults etc damaging humans etc. You have your belief and maybe no one can even move your inner belief rock..the belief of what you are stating...the nonbelivers belief..what does it make you and your alikes? Sheep are cute they dont do or mean harm..I prefer sheep than wolves dressed in sheeps clothes hehe..anyways..I disagree with you but myfaith tells me to respect your right to have your free thoughts in regards to this and turn the other cheek..



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Posted on Fri, Nov 30, 2012 20:44

Voyager...OMG!...you seem to have had some kind of shaking shocking experience with religious stuff..and that could happen anywhere regarding anything...I know that kind of people..if you mean extremes..they push people into stuff etc...if that is your definition of brainwashed I understand...but then they are not representing for example Christianity in proper manners...one must look at the prophet of a religion and make a decision if you agree or not with actions and words etc. Some people reflect their prophet wrong, hence bad marketing. You might meet a "healthy" christian some day and if you are open you might be re-introduced, but in a more suiting manner...see...it is not at all about if and when for example Jesus existed in flesh etc..its about His deeds that changed billions of peoples lifes, created several foundations for morality etc. The effect is key.

 

When you travelled around, alone, to check things out, then maybe you were fed-up and all too closed for religion as your experience was not as pelasent as others, and then maybe that made you seek and find doubters and doubtroads...we find what we seek.

 

Anyways, I do not think we need to worry too much about christians, buddists and their alikes, they are not threatening the world. In this case it is a matter of personal choice.

 

If we will walk around questioning ancient religions which are working miracles in peoples lives, the main soulmedicine for billions...then we can rather start by questioning our own existence. Do we exist or is this all a dream infused in us by something/someone etc...

 

We can question everything...but..we need to frame our existence in moral tissue and belief, so that we dont go somehow soulfully empty and mad doubting and questioning everything, just like Descartes almost did...



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Posted on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 02:18

Voyager..no need to get into a proof match here..even though I dont find your statements other than opinions based on your personal feelings and references...and that we cannot play around with facts of thousands of years worshipping and praying for billions of people worldwide etc etc..dont worry..we have a majority of your fellow non-believers back in my country and its their religion ie nonbelievers become the blind sheep you are referring to aswell...I agree about brainwashing and also that there are cultish religions which are damaging people and the world and should be questioned in every angle...and good if you question them...well other than such..there is alot to say on this religion matter..but remember the clash you got with TexasNeuro and I supported you even started a blog for you even though TN was "christian" and you clashed with him in regards of such stuff..I believe in justice and my actions back then are cultivated thru my beliefs...but as said this is a huge subject and no need to get to the deeper roots of things as you will probably get pissed...again... ;-))) and as we are talking about peoples personal feelingws and spiritual activities...meaning stuff allowed to even be as see thru as air...but it helps people breathe..



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Posted on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 07:29

www12345...thanks for the survival info...where about would you consider us worldwide being just now on that survival positioning pic...OH...yeah...religion has nothing to do with it :-)))



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