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Posted on 12/23/2011

This week I was contacted by a hansome man who wanted to meet me this weekend.

I agreed to a date this Friday,,tonight actually.
He lives about 75 miles away. He is coming up here ,as a gentleman should.

I wanted him to select the restaurant and I would meet him there. ( he didnt like that idea,,wanted to pick me up)

Recently I moved to San Francisco.Being new to SF, Im not familiar with any of the MANY fantastic places to eat in this wonderful culinary city.

The man in question is 49 years old, a very successful engineer. Hes far from poor.

Yesterday evening he called me to set up the time and place I was driving in heavy traffic and I dont have a headset, so I was pretty distracted while trying to talk to him.

I was floored when he suggested the place he wants to take me.,,,for our first date,,,in one of the top Foodie Places in the WORLD.

He wants me to meet him at Fre*h Choi*e. For Dinner. On a Friday Night. In San Francisco.


That is a chain "Salad bar Buffet" that is SELF SERVE cafeteria style. Its the kind of place that is found in shopping mall food courts.


He asked me what I thought of that idea. What I thought was " you MUST BE KIDDING"

what I said was " I wont be wearing a dress and high heels for that"

Admittedly, had I been at home or someplace where I could have given the conversation the attention it deserved,I would not have been so surprized and maybe would have said something a bit more gracious.

The convo ended as I was driving into a tunnel ( yes for real)

This from a man who was very actively pursuing me for a date the last two weeks.

Truthfully, I was instantly turned off by his " suggestion" Totally cheap, totally lacking in any imagination. I lost all desire to meet this man right then.

It now 10:30 am. I havent heard from him and I and wavering on hoping he doesnt call me back,,and wanting to go meet him after all.

I dont think I care to go to the effort if his idea of a good time is eating in a mall food court.


First meetings are always weird. I get it about people not wanting to invest too mkuch money or time in a meeting.

AM I being too hard on this guy ???
OR, are you of the same opinion as am ??? FC is horrid suggestion and its NOT the way to impress anyone on a first date.

I dont think Im going. Not my idea of a good time.



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Posted on 03/20/2012

Im not here looking for friends. Im looking for men to date and form a relationship with.
Personally, I hate a guy who always wants to do things last minute, What that REALLY means is that he is LAZY and doesnt care enough about me to make the effor t to PLAN a DATE.

Get this MEN,,we women WSANT YOU TO MAKE AN EFFORT to show us we ARE special to you.

if some guy calls me an hour before he wants to go do something,,,just how much desire and thought do you think he has put forth on that ?? NONE thats how much.
Im not going to be some clowns last minute companion. Screw that.
I AM worth waiting for and I AM worth making real plans to see.

If you wan t to be some guys goodtime anytime date,,be my guest.. He wont ever think of you as special .Because if you allow him to treat you that way,,,thats ALL you will ever get.NO THANKS



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Posted on 03/20/2012

first of all,,no , he was not a decent guy trying to meet me,,he was a clueless doofus with no class or social skills.
second..this is not a telephone so please,,when you are writng here, use sentences and do not abbreviate like its a text message...please.
like many people , I dislike that style of messages very very much.

And no , he wasnt worth the time or enegry or effort to get drressed up for and go meet. He was boring and...well, he was boring.
Next time I have a gut instinct about someone,,i'm going to follow it.



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Posted on 03/12/2012

So true!



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Posted on 03/03/2012

I will tell u this. Men r different he might be rich & all but also might be a nice simple guy who blends any where. The guy was trying to meet u nt date u yet. I might be come on too harsh but u never know u might or are pushing a good guy away. It wnt hurt to compromise 4 one day or suggest a. place u both will like thts simple. . Some guys just want a spontaneous woman or one tht goes with the flow. When u grew up u started from pre. K not high school. Start slow, get to know someone the advance from there.
Dn't. 4get too, pple a re different to. Even if u dnt date he might become a good friend. Always have an open mind.



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Posted on 02/18/2012

Quoting Diana3316:

S~
Hmmmm....too bad about the farmer date. We have an ol' rock and roll group from Texas named ZZ Top. They have a song that pretty much sums it up. The lyric goes: Every girl is crazy about a sharp dressed man!

Hmmm....wonder if that has anything to do with peacocks??? *wink*


Haha true!

Sarah ;-)



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Posted on 02/17/2012

hey V we have something in common.Ive been a recluse for close to seven years.....hence the " clueless " status regarding dating.
It was ok. Now im lonely. Trouble is, Ive forgotten HOW to be sociable. I DO however, LOVE the country life.Im a ranch hand from way back.



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Posted on 02/13/2012

~Di~...An Old crow? ...no babygirl...I'm not an old crow, I'm more of a ...Curmudgeon! lol.



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Posted on 02/13/2012

~Matilde~...The coffee at McDonald's these days is very good. it's Paul Newman's brand, and it's only a dollar.

No, I probably would never bring a first date to Mickey D, but, if things are going swimmingly, then I doubt the girl would care or that I would be bothered,because the enjoyment of each others company would override the location or the F&B.(Food and beverage).And that's chemistry folks!



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Posted on 02/07/2012

V~
I DO understand. It seems many of us at this stage of life begin a process of self-assessment and a quest to figure out what to do next?? For those of us that are of reasonable intelligence and have achieved reasonable success....this point in life seems quite unsettling. We've always had our work, families, dreams and carnal desires to occupy our time. But we've done all that...so what's next? This can't be it!! What do we want and what are we supposed to do now?

Unfortunately, I don't have it figured out yet and have no answers for you. I wrote the below in Aug 2011, on Smax's blog 'Playing beat the clock...for love':

"Interesting Smax! Sometime last year, I suddenly became acutely aware of the tic, tic, tic. Although I had always thought I was fairly successful in love, in that I had many choices, I never had the ultimate fairytale romance with the handsome prince. But they were all relationships that I learned from and most recently had A LOT of crazy fun. Curiously it’s been almost 2 yrs now in which I have hardly dated. Not feeling particularly lonely, but beginning to hear the tic, tic, tic….I thought I’d better show up if I ever intended to meet a prince….as he would not find me in my house. So I found my way to this site.

The first two months were fairly entertaining. But in this fertile void, my mind is again beginning to change. It seems quite striking….as I thought I had pretty much achieved my pinnacle in my 40s. Instead I find myself reflecting on my past, but also trying to figure out what my last chapter will be all about and what do I want to make of it. Surprisingly, I don’t feel particularly panicked to find a man to ‘complete me’. Instead my mind has begun to make plans of how my life will be lived….the things that I need to do to survive, including diet, exercise and any contributions I might be able to make to society ….and what things I still want to do/achieve before it is too late. I feel strong, smart and unafraid. Obviously an intimate and satisfying relationship would be the cake….but I can’t wait for that to happen to LIVE."

Take your time to think V, and don't dispair. Right now solitude may be a good thing for you, but understand you can always change your mind. You have many gifts and you will find a path that will put meaning back into your life....if that is what you choose. But be very clear on this...it is a choice! Your friends on MM will still be here if you need us. ~D



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Posted on 02/06/2012

~Diana~...from now on, it's just horses,dogs,cats, skiing,golf and cars and boats with mild travel to the car auctions in AZ,CA and NV.
I realize now that for me, to be in a relationship is 'almost' impossible. It's not the money...it's the sanity. My own! I've gone far too long alone to further consider any sort of serious relationship.
I was able to garner this information about myself after a 3 day winter camping trip in sub zero temps here in the Adirondacks. Just me and the dogs and the stars.
I'm fairly certain I am a full fledged, bona-fide hermit. I love the solitude. Nobody to answer to but myself.
Went down to Florida and took the boat out to the 'middle grounds', an area of the gulf about 100 miles out from Tampa/Sarasota, if you triangulate...two nights out there alone...that too gave me some religion. I'm destined for solitude. And seeming enjoy it. Not many men, let alone women can cope with me and my quirks. I don't see any reason to pursue the company of either anymore.
It's perhaps what makes this mode of communication, the crux of my limits in relating to anyone on an intimate level.



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Posted on 02/02/2012

S~
Hmmmm....too bad about the farmer date. We have an ol' rock and roll group from Texas named ZZ Top. They have a song that pretty much sums it up. The lyric goes: Every girl is crazy about a sharp dressed man!

Hmmm....wonder if that has anything to do with peacocks??? *wink*



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Posted on 02/01/2012

Aww, I recently went on a date with a farmer would you believe. I was not quite sure if that was going to work as honestly I didn't think a farmer would be interested in me.

However, we went on a coffee date. Have to say my heart did not skip a beat but he was a really nice guy. He seemed to like me too. So he asked me on a dinner date. A Friday night dinner date. I chose the location a nice Italian restaurant.

Being a Friday night, I put on the black dress. When I went to meet him he was in jeans and a shirt. Not smart looking jeans and shirt. I was honestly disappointed!

It was however a nice date overall but like I say no sparks flying well not from my way. Then he asked if I thought of myself as high maintenance. Which I felt was an odd question.

Anyway later that weekend he told me that he was looking for a serious relationship and that he did not see us being a long term thing as we were very different.

So I guess I was right in my thinking all along.

However, I know who I am more suitable with and will see how that story unfolds...



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Posted on 01/31/2012

Awww....V...what's the matter??? There isn't a woman alive that hasn't been 'used' at one time or another....for one thing or another. Does that mean she has to cop an attitude about all men and future dates? I guess she can if she wants to end up a bitter old crow. Why on earth would you let this shoe woman have so much power over you and your life????? Did you fall that hard for a woman you didn't even meet?

Seriously, there's all kinds in this world...some good and some not so good. The not so good, you leave alone and ease on down the road. You sure don't let them change your world and the person you have worked hard to become.

But the crazy thing to me is, that I remember when you said you were looking for a woman that knew her way around heavy farm equipment and farm animals. But then you take up with a center fold....oops sorry...I meant to say a model. Models aren't typically into farming in remote regions of upstate NY are they? Seems like you may need to re-think your choices in women. But if you decide you want to continue to play with models, then you need to understand that they require maintenance. Don't be upset when they ask for what they want and need. You on the other hand are seeking a woman 'several' years younger than yourself. What are you hoping to get from it? Love? Satisfying communication? Company walking the fence line?

Things that make you go.....hmmmmmmmmm. *wink*

Warm wishes.....and SMILE ....ur beautiful!!! Shake it off! Even bad experiences offer something to learn. Don't turn into the male version of a bitter old crow! :)



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Posted on 01/27/2012

Voyager 54:
I don't think an educated man, who drive a car of 350000 Dollars will bring a girl a McDonalds or something similar. Starbucks, it's more appropriate. Or a simple coffee shop.
I also think you wrong when you generalize. How do you know that this girl, shazbot, can not afford to buy you a pair of Alexander McQueen shoes?
I don't have the experience of dating on web sites, but I think it's best idea that first meeting must be short, drinking a coffee... You don't like, you go in half an hour, not two hours...



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Posted on 01/19/2012

~ALL~...ladies, try to keep in mind that many men, especially on THIS site, have had their bell rung hard by women who claimed they were seeking one thing but really wanted another.
If I roll up to a Starbucks or even a McDonalds driving my brand new Azure...are you going to tell me, DEMAND of me, that I take you to the nearest French Five Star eatery? Are you going to demand I buy you a pair of Alexander McQueen shoes for $1400 dollars, just because you see me driving a $375,000 dollar car?
THATS BS! There is no way I am falling into that trap anymore. Be happy that I even consider meeting you and MAYBE even buying you a cup of coffee! Dinner can wait. All first meeting should be a probe...check out the physical attributes etc. For some women...going the distance over a cup of coffee may be too long. Thats why, NO DINNERS ON A FIRST DATE...unless you're so incredibly hot, that I don't care what your personality is like. I can overcome boneheaded bimbos for two hours. After that, it's a total crap shoot. And it won't matter how hot you might be. I'll drop you like a bad habit.
Jeeez...I think I'm still pissed off at that last girl from Miami...sorry.



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Posted on 01/15/2012

A few tidbits further:
I am really reluctant offering any suggestion for a first meeting. I dont know what the man prefers, or his time-expense budget, so I prefer that HE figure out what HEwants to do.

In this case, the man suggested of his own accord dinner on Friday night.I said ok to that. THEN I wanted to decline ( as presernted here)He then suggested a breakfast meeting near my home.

I wanted to thank everyone who has input their thoughts on this blog. Reading what other people think in such a situation is valuable ...to mer,,and hopefully to others as well.

Differing viewpoints help us all to find some mutual common ground in this quest.

He was a nice man,but not for me.

ps. to those who arent not familiar with me,,I am dsylexic,and often , I wont even recognize spelling errors.



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Posted on 01/15/2012

MIssing: refreshinbg to see a man give his true opinion on other men.

I think that if we were all more honest ,this world would be a nicer easier place tyo exist. Saddly, I have to agree with your accessment. Recent forays into the quagmire of dating have shown me that even very sweet appearing guys have soon hidden "quirks" that were much better not revealed.
Those of the old guard who know me here would have a hard time believing the situation I am in right now...too bizarre.

ARI: SHOES WOMAN..OF course the shoes take top billing in any mall. Except for the clothes...lol



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Posted on 01/15/2012

If a man persues you 1-2 weeks then suggests supermarket or chain restaurants to meet in. Most definitely cross him off your "will meet " list.   I agree with Jenkneee. Time and energy, effort should be expected on both sides.
 
 
 
I suggest doing an internet search on local good restuarants that you can easily try yourself (bring a book if your selfconscious ) or  ask a friend or co-worker at work  a a new neighbor.
 
 
 
Get to know the neighborhood a little so you feel comfortable.  I rarely let anyone suggest where to meet less Ive been there.  I never let anyone pick me up on a first date. I meet them there as you suggested.    I always tell one person where Im going and when and with who.  There are good guys and not so good guys and wait on the better ones to come along.  They are out there.   Your instinct was speaking to you- Listen to it;, your worth it!  Patience is a good thing-  Truly,  MJ


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"Just Around The Corner"... M J-

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Posted on 01/11/2012

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experience honey. If aman is cheap at the beginning,,hes hiding something or he is flat out cheap.

I dont date little boys.Real men have the time enegry and cash to date.I spend a lot of my time enegry and effort to be good company and a stimulating companion. Im ont doing that to go to a food court in a mall.


I also do not date little boys. We have a different opinion on what a first date should entail. I do feel it's fine for little cash to be spent and a meal does not necessarily need to be included on a first date. I don't define the success of a first meeting/date by how much money was spent.

I think my next date may be meeting at the arcade/miniature golf course, we'll get to know each other while having some fun :) If we like each other's company well enough then we may move on to another establishment.



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