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Posted on Sat, Jul 07, 2012 09:38

Yes, i lie about my age, what women over 50 wouldn't? Yes, i lie about my weight, don't ask, don't tell.
But when you get a red flag, and then another red flag and you have already given your heart, what do you do? Well i went on line and looked him up, and honey did i find out things about him.
He never owned that beautiful house he showed me, it belonged to his girlfriend, who he lived with for 10 years. He told me he didn't love her, bingo, bingo, bingo. red, red, red. then he lied about who his father was, and lied about losing his money. he was on the prowl for a wealthy women. Guess what, i fell for it and now i am out over $2000. I figure it is money well spent and forget about it. Now i am very careful, if i see a red flag, GOODBYE HANDSOME. Anyone have that experience?
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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2012 21:27

yes so true.....id make that one lie or misrepresentation...also avoid men whose main form of communication is text.....men who call you baby or babe soon after they meet you...men who cancel more than one date...men who are late to a date..offer no apology and dont call to say they are late...I know that im pointing out the obvious...but Ive seen it all.....we all want to meet someone and sometimes we tend to whitewash these glaring errors....



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Posted on Tue, Sep 18, 2012 03:39

One can´t compare lie about age and lie about having a beautiful house.
Men or women can look older or younger their passport age. Sometimes 10 yours older or younger.  Of course, when person says he is 45, but when you see him he looks good 55 it still doesn´t mean he lies. May be this is just his genetic.  The weight is differ. And the high. Here you can lie untill you meet.  But to lie about possesing things which you don´t it is already intention of crime.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 16, 2012 22:59

Quoting sandibernstein:

I do agree with you. Most of the men i have met on this website do lie about themselves. they say they are kind and generous, etc etc. When you really get to know them, they are either too possessive or so spoiled, they need a wet nurse. 
I have been disappointed many times, but keep on kissing the frogs. one of these days, someone right will come along. Being careful is  good thing and i look these people up on google and other sites. if they don't like that i am asking questions and searching the internet for anything about them, then they are hiding something. 
I am getting tired of the wacko men that seem to congregate on this site. one was actually looking for a wealthy women and told me so. Wow, sugar mommy, no way.
i make it very clear , that i have enough to take care of myself not anyone else.
Sandi
 


nothing wrong with a man iso a wealthy woman(this WOULD be the right place to be, right?). too me, that's just as bad as saying a woman was only here to meet rich guys. you'd think that would be the point....
 
at this stage in your life, you know that men lie.no reason to freak out about it.better to hold your head high & tell the truth,better to wait & find a man who loves you, every part of you.



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Posted on Fri, Aug 24, 2012 07:25

good to know.
 



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Posted on Mon, Aug 13, 2012 11:21

There are lies and there are Lies.  We are taught from childhood that lying is bad, eecept of course when it's to protect someone's feelings.  We are taught from childhood that stealing is bad, unless of course it's from the government (unwarranted, unnecessary goverment services received...anyone work "under the table"?) or an insurance company.  Afterall, no one gets hurt, right? 
"Victimless" crimes are abundant and you can find them every where whether it's lying about your age, weight, income or marital status and it's at epidemic levels.  Hell, a swimmer for Great Brittian admitted that he cheated in his race but because there are no cameras he won't lose his gold medal and rationalized it away by saying, "everyone is doing it".
We have become a society of physically, emotionally and intellectually lazy people looking for the "easier" way out and it shows up in our relationships, work habits and children.  A lie is a lie and and people are less trusting every day because more and more of our fundamental morality is slipping away.  There are no "victimless" lies.



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 15:59

Quoting sandibernstein:

Oh get over it. you are the ones who make it difficult for us to tell the truth about our age. Youth is the only thing that men think about. a man in his 60's and 70's usually wants a women 10 to 15 years younger. That is what this country is all about.
My girlfriend and I go out dancing and to clubs and guess what, any man who is our age, usually goes for a 30 year old. it happens all the time. so don't tell me about fibbing about age. that is one thing i will do the rest of my life.
when i get serious with someone, i always tell my age. it is something i will not keep a secret.
 


I wholeheartedly agree that an alarming number of men are age obsessed, lustful, wannabe cradle-robbers and have always found that disgusting, even when I was their very young target. I think it's a sign of deep-seated insecurity and shallowness on the part of emotionally handicapped men who have serious issues with the passing of their own youth . That said , I'm appalled that anyone could possibly blame this male dysfunction on other women whose only crime is to be younger. ALL OF US PAST 30 go through this Sandi ... can't tell you how many times it's happened to me since my daughter turned 18 and how men's attitude towards me changed when they found out I had an 18 year old daughter (at a very young looking 38!). They suddenly lost interest, looked at me like I was ready for the grave, and one was bold enough to ask me to introduce him to my gorgeous daughter ! Those experiences certainly stung and it's always a sensitive thing in my heart, but I don't blame my daughter or the women coming up in generations after mine; this is their time, just like we had ours, and soon enough they will also experience what we are experiencing. I say let them enjoy their golden hour. The problem lies with society's stereotypes and men's attitudes, aided and abetted by the women who succumb to that game and/ or are quick to crucify other women unfairly instead of attacking the root of the problem; it is NOT a reflection of us more mature women. That's why I personally choose to wear my age as a badge of honor ; any man who cannot deal with it does not deserve me and I wouldn't want him if I was paid to take him. Period. I've also found there still are a few good men out there who are emotionally mature and are seeking real relationships with compatible women; as few and far between as those may be, they're well worth holding out for in my opinion. There isn't a man in the universe worth my having to misrepresent myself in order to get his attention ... it's HIS loss as far as I am concerned.

Disclaimer: the above is not to say age is irrelevant; that would be naive. I respect and understand that longevity is a very real concern for many people in a number of life stages, especially when there are young children. It also depends on whether people are looking to live in the here and now or looking down the road. The point is everyone has the right to choose what's important to them in a relationship and go get it. If they find it, more power to them, but they shouldn't be deceived into it. That would be selfish. The bottom line is, if a man is looking for someone 30 years younger, no amount of lying on our part is going to cut it, regardless of how good any of us might look at our age =)).



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 13:13

Honesty is always best... It takes courage and practice to tell the truth politely, but the rewards are well worth it! Trust and intimacy grow when you respect someone ( and yourself) enough to never lie. Diplomacy is a learned skill that can be used to manage any situation. A lie is a lie. Lies of omission and clever choice of words are a gray zone, but a reasonable starting point when you are first practicing Honesty. (not to be confused with radical honesty).



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 12:15

Oh get over it. you are the ones who make it difficult for us to tell the truth about our age. Youth is the only thing that men think about. a man in his 60's and 70's usually wants a women 10 to 15 years younger. That is what this country is all about.
My girlfriend and I go out dancing and to clubs and guess what, any man who is our age, usually goes for a 30 year old. it happens all the time. so don't tell me about fibbing about age. that is one thing i will do the rest of my life.
when i get serious with someone, i always tell my age. it is something i will not keep a secret.
 



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 09:25

Hi Sandi,

You sound like a kind, vibrant woman and I understand your predicament. I've been hurt/ deceived/ betrayed/ devastated (emotionally and financially) by the lies men tell more than my share of times so I feel for you there. I understand the reasons why you feel compelled to lie about your age and don't judge you for that, but I believe doing so just compounds the problem and perhaps sets you up for greater disappointments. Perhaps you are looking for a partner in the wrong site? I say this because my mom, who is 67 and just came to live with me, is on another site and we've been pleasantly surprised with the results. Like you, she has a youthful appearance and is very energetic, though she is looking for an age appropriate partner (someone in her age range and in good shape). However, at least half the hits she gets are from much younger men who seem to be sincerely attracted to more mature women. She even volunteered me for a date with a guy whose profile and appearance she thought would be ideal for me but he declined without hesitation, indicating I was "too young" at 47 (he was 52) !! Oh, she has also found and gone on dates with, men in her age range (70-80) who look just as great as she does and are sharp, full of energy, and enjoying life to the fullest. Her social life is consequently as active as my 24 year old daughter's and she's only been on that site for one month =)).

My point is that if you are honest and upfront about who you are (age and all), your candidate pool may be reduced but at least your hits will be real contenders and you won't expose yourself to potential hurt/ embarrassment when the age issue is finally disclosed. You will also avoid the sometimes inevitable question mark that may come to his mind regarding your integrity on other matters based on the age thing.

May I also say you look fabulous and are clearly full of life and love to give. You should be proud to be the age you are and flaunt it. Don't let society's hangups take that away from you. Lying about one's age is giving in to the artificiality of the system; it's only by defying the stereotypes that we can redefine them so go for it, girl; the rest of us are rallying behind you and doing the same =)).



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 09:05

I cannot find any justification to lie about ones age. Eventually, it will be found out. But a person at any age can either be "young" or "old". It really depends on how well someone takes care of oneself. I am 63 (I will be happy to show you my drivers license and birth certificate), run  4 - 6 miles and workout almost everyday, close to sporting six-pack abs, and will not take money from any womand (except for a fair share contribution to an evening out when warranted).
 
I have pictures posted covering the last ten years with notations on most of the month and year. They are not there to decieve, but rather to show that as I age, I continue to take care of myself and, as indicated by several women friends, am in very good shape when compared to most men.
 
The lies do occur on both sides. I see women on some sites wo have not had a birthday in years and have had them admit to me that their age is not correct. How do you women think it makes guys feel that they have been deceived? If you tell the truth in the first place, you will get responses from guys that are interested in you, not a number. And it's real easy to trun down the ones that are not in your desired age range.
 
Yes, do your due diligance. I do mine when necessary.



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Posted on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 08:25

I don't care if they lie about their age. Age is not important to me. it is what the person is and has.
if i told how old i was, i would never get to meet anyone that suits me. so a lie, is not a lie.
 



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Posted on Sat, Aug 11, 2012 17:53

a lie is a lie is a lie.  period.



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Posted on Sat, Aug 11, 2012 17:51

Seems there is an aweful lot of lying going on here on both sides.  a lie is a lie is a lie.
 



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Posted on Sat, Aug 11, 2012 17:49

I do agree with you. Most of the men i have met on this website do lie about themselves. they say they are kind and generous, etc etc. When you really get to know them, they are either too possessive or so spoiled, they need a wet nurse. 
I have been disappointed many times, but keep on kissing the frogs. one of these days, someone right will come along. Being careful is  good thing and i look these people up on google and other sites. if they don't like that i am asking questions and searching the internet for anything about them, then they are hiding something. 
I am getting tired of the wacko men that seem to congregate on this site. one was actually looking for a wealthy women and told me so. Wow, sugar mommy, no way.
i make it very clear , that i have enough to take care of myself not anyone else.
Sandi
 



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Posted on Sat, Aug 11, 2012 14:36

When the man who promises the moon, only wants to enertain you at his home, or has time for you at his home, is not truly interested in you for what you may have reiterated.,"a meaningful relationship".    This seems to be a common thread in men who are good looking, used to controlling situations and others in their lives. I believe it is a socio-pathic tendency, and I say run.  Life is hard enough.



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Posted on Sun, Jul 29, 2012 20:58

I’ve thought about this subject for a few days now, and tried to think of where in our lives we can have a reasonable expectation of not being lied to.

 

-Clearly not in advertising. I think we’ve all bought products that didn’t live up to the promotion. Profiles on the internet probably fall into this class.

-We know our politicians lie to us.

-Our parents told us Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are real.

-We should probably not bring up religion and the lies there.

-Our schools….example Sandusky scandal.

 

It doesn’t mean that lying always happens in every situation, but we just have to be aware that there is a potential for deceit everywhere….especially in advertising, where positives are always embellished and negatives are understated.

 

Clearly I don’t need to go into all of the reasons why telling the truth is important, as it is the fundamental foundation to trust in our relationships with those who are most dear and close to our hearts. Yet, if you think about it…there may be times when lying is beneficial and maybe even necessary.

 

For example, if your great aunt asks how you like the fruitcake she gave you for Christmas. You don’t tell her that it was awful, that you hate fruit cake and can’t believe she would think you would like a fruit cake as a gift! Instead you lie and tell her it was good and that you liked it. You shouldn’t be truthful in this situation, as it would be hurtful to your great aunt, who just wants to know that her efforts created value in your life. Brutal honesty can be used as a toxic weapon. I don’t think we are obligated to tell the whole truth if it hurts someone’s feelings or destroys their self-esteem.

 

Another example might be, when you tell a terminally ill friend that she looks better, when she actually looks absolutely terrible. Or when your battered girlfriend is staying at your house and her husband comes banging on the door. I think I would lie and say she wasn’t there!!

 

It’s a tricky deal. Sometimes a lie is a harmless, thoughtful pleasantry; sometimes it’s an advertising embellishment, like a few years shaved off (no more than 5 and should be corrected quickly, typically on the first date); or sometimes it is a hurtful sin, that does permanent damage to a relationship…..like a broken promise, vow or other betrayal.



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Posted on Sat, Jul 28, 2012 08:34

Paraphrasing Martha Stout in her book, “the sociopath next door," -- If you catch a new acquaintance in three lies or misrepresentations cut your losses and get away as soon as possible. 
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Posted on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 11:30

BRANKA... As a parent we teach our children NOT to lie...
WHY? Because it's WRONG, DECEPTIVE and HARMFUL... 
A lie is a "manipulation" of truth... 
TRUTH conquers .... And what is "irrelevant" to one.. may be the first and foremost relevant factor to others.. 
MY most "relevant factor" with ANYONE... 
LYING to me...
I may not like the truth.. and it may rear it's ugly head.. 
But A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE.... 
TELLING THE TRUTH is taught in social skills 101..
It's a NO BRAINER! 
If I catch someone lying to me.. regardless of the issue..
TRUST IS LOST! If one can't be truthful about the simple things in life.. (Like weight and age) then what else will they justify lying to me about? 
JMHO...



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Posted on Wed, Jul 25, 2012 14:22

 

I do not quite agree. I do NOT like liers when they lie about serious things. But, to tell small 'lies' are allowed for many reasons.You would not suppres little child imagination='lies',. We all have that mind of that little child in us that  makes us alive, dynamic. So, irrelevant things  i.e. small 'lies' will NOT attract bad people in ones life.



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