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Posted on Sun, Mar 09, 2014 07:50

I don't know if all of this story is true, parts of it sound plausible, other parts do not. But I am convinced that the conclusion is absolutely true.

 

Back in ancient Greece there was a prophet named Tiresias. Although it is not clear exactly how this happened, Tiresias was transformed into a woman for 7 years. I mean the real thing, not through surgery and chemicals. He/she got married and even had children. Just as mysteriously, the spell ended and Tiresias was transformed back into a man.

 

Now this may be an idle curiosity and I am sure there are a lot of sceptics who may be reading this. Nevertheless, if you think about it, there is an intriguing question that only Tiresias can answer. It didn't take long for the gods to bring up this question. The chief of the gods, Zeus, got into an argument with his wife Hera about who experienced greater pleasure during sex: the man, as Hera claimed, or the woman, as Zeus believed. So they asked Tiresias who answered that the woman experiences 10 times more pleasure than the man does.

 

Hera, angry that he revealed that secret, made him go blind.

 

Now you can't imagine how liberating this is when a man finally understands it. Several years ago, I used to give seminars to newly divorced men until my new girlfriend at the time felt uncomfortable about it and asked me to stop. Of course, the men could not believe it, especially since they had just left marriages without any affection.

 

When they typically objected, "My wife was cold and didn't want sex at all." Sadly, I had to explain to him, "Your wife did not want sex with you. That does not mean she does not want sex."

 

Unfortunately, most men do not know how to awaken the passion in a woman. They are not romantic, they are out of shape, they are clumsy ... there are more reasons than I know about. But for the few who do, they form the basis for a great relationship ... the couple can't wait to see each other, hold and touch each other. Men are so narrow minded, they just want sex, but a woman desires the whole package; as we would say, similarly to Tiresias, the whole nine yards vs the one. It is sad that so many woman want that but don't know how to express it.

 

Now the dating game is wildly unfair. There are a minority of men who have a surfeit of potential sexual partners, whether due to their looks or charm or status. The rest are almost always in a deficit situation; their biorythms demand relase, but there is nowhere to go. Yet, while they want pleasure, they refuse to learn what gives a woman pleasure. At ten times more than the man, it is much more than mere physical intimacy.

 

Earlier I asked the question, "Do women settle", now I'll reveal what men will settle for. When they find someone who gives them regular intimacies, then they will settle. They will put up with almost anything for that.

 

 

Of course, I am speaking of the masses. Those men who have choices do not fear losing one woman, because they know another one will be available. Hence, they can look for and appreciate the finer qualities that a woman has to offer.



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Posted on Sat, Aug 23, 2014 13:00

Quoting DLeeD2014:

LuckyStiff2001 said...

Years ago, after my split up, I learned a lesson when I got in the "game" again. I was driving home around 12:30 AM from my new gf at the time. While on the road, she rang me up on my cell. She began nagging me harshly along these lines: "I didn't get off." "What is the point of being intimate if I don't get an orgasm." and so on and so on.

 

So I had to turn around and go back to her house to complete the task. After that we were together 5 years, and I made sure that an incident like that never happened again.

 

DLeeD2014 said...

....Key word here is 'HAD' ...to turn around.  Kudos for trying, for sure, but I'm sure she'd agree if she read this, that if you had said '...All I WANTED to do was turn around and run back to her and finish the job.',  ...you'd be a God.  lol

 

Just saying'...those fraudian slips are a dead give-away!



Could you please explain the difference betweem "fraudian slips" and Freudian slips.



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Posted on Sat, Aug 23, 2014 05:34

LuckyStiff2001 said...

Years ago, after my split up, I learned a lesson when I got in the "game" again. I was driving home around 12:30 AM from my new gf at the time. While on the road, she rang me up on my cell. She began nagging me harshly along these lines: "I didn't get off." "What is the point of being intimate if I don't get an orgasm." and so on and so on.

 

So I had to turn around and go back to her house to complete the task. After that we were together 5 years, and I made sure that an incident like that never happened again.

 

DLeeD2014 said...

....Key word here is 'HAD' ...to turn around.  Kudos for trying, for sure, but I'm sure she'd agree if she read this, that if you had said '...All I WANTED to do was turn around and run back to her and finish the job.',  ...you'd be a God.  lol

 

Just saying'...those fraudian slips are a dead give-away!



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Posted on Tue, Jun 03, 2014 05:57

Quoting Diana3316:

Miami is spending $450,000,000 building levees and pumps to combat the rising sea level.  



Even so, I wouldn't be buying any beachfront property in Miami.  Perhaps not in out lifetime but ultimately Mother Nature will prevail.



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Posted on Sat, May 31, 2014 19:09

Quoting sweetlyamazing:

Sex for a female I think is interesting, I believe it is the physical, spiritual, emotional and intellectual parts of a person colliding. I think sex can bring two people closer to wholeness if they focus on their partner's needs. I think sex is a selfless act. There are so many levels of ones self coming out. 

 

At times it is a power struggle to cross boundaries and essentially have each persons guard down. With women their guards lie in their emotions so if you can pin down her guards and have her drop them well before sex that's most of the battle, then connecting with her in a positive way is like mental foreplay to us, now well desire you before you even touch us. By that point if we are feeling safe with you, we are going to be so excited. By the time orgasm comes it reaffirms and enhances the connection we feel for you so when you act stupid we go through the but I love him trial with ourselves. Having an orgasm just deepens our bond and the affinity we have for you. Now if we get that on a repeated basis plus the positive interactions the whoed us to bed you keep us for life lol Idk what it's like for a man so I can't speak on that but when a man put the effort in to melt my heart I start craving him so much that I can't turn him down nor would I want to. If he doesn't put in work and is lazy he's not going to have me around for long. I need that deep connection. 

 

In man language youre a fox and she is a rabbit. She's gentle and she's grazing on a carrot. If you pounce after her she'll run but if you kept your distance and moved in slowly and she got used to you being around the rabbit won't be alarmed when you begin to get closer. If you gave the rabbit a carrott you'd have yourself a lifelong friend so when you go after your prey their guard is down... Sex works this way



Maybe, a guarded friend, SA; There are depth's of relationships in residuals. The situation's change, and power plays are staged, but the kids know when you blink. A woman shares a bed with her x, and the new guy, for a time. Most of the time, time lingers. Fight's are raised in comparison. My kids mom said one time," We have better sex after we fight"! Damn!....Why?



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Posted on Sat, May 31, 2014 18:44

Quoting 3345roc:

You take me too seriously... but you're right about a new dustbowl.



Miami is spending $450,000,000 building levees and pumps to combat the rising sea level.  



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Posted on Mon, May 26, 2014 17:16

Quoting Diana3316:

No, I do not think daily showers are a French hang-up.  Instead, more of cultural value system that shuns over-consumption and waste.

 

I have a feeling that Americans may be evolving on this issue as well……particularly in West Texas were the severe drought is worrying some cities that they will run out of DRINKING water….some are saying in 90 days.

 

Attached is a pic I clipped from the front page of the Dallas Morning News last week.  That’s a real and recent picture; don’t know if it will stay attached.  Too bad some low information folks that get their news from the echo chamber, Fake News, don’t have a clue what is happening to our world.  They believe, “the climate is changing all the time”….and “God may want the earth to get warmer”.   *sigh*

 

The people of Miami are starting to believe.  Scientists say Miami will be under water by 2100.  Alton Road already floods in high tide when there is a full moon.  Some Hoax!!!! 



You take me too seriously... but you're right about a new dustbowl.



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Posted on Mon, May 26, 2014 10:36

Quoting 3345roc:

Just saying... I can't vouch for it's veracity. She had a propensity for exaggeration and questionable hygiene.  She was fond of the French bath.

 

Oh, that reminds me.  You mentioned that you preferred European men to Americans because they had fewer hangups.  Just curious, do you consider daily showers a hangup?  Have you ever been to Grasse, the perfume capital of the world... it's fun and you can mix your own scents.  Have to love a culture that favors smelling good to being clean  

 

I doubt the pharms and ad agencies will suffer.  They have Viagra for women now, a predictable market for HRT and bio-indenticals.... for all those non frigid women.

 

 

 



No, I do not think daily showers are a French hang-up.  Instead, more of cultural value system that shuns over-consumption and waste.

 

I have a feeling that Americans may be evolving on this issue as well……particularly in West Texas were the severe drought is worrying some cities that they will run out of DRINKING water….some are saying in 90 days.

 

Attached is a pic I clipped from the front page of the Dallas Morning News last week.  That’s a real and recent picture; don’t know if it will stay attached.  Too bad some low information folks that get their news from the echo chamber, Fake News, don’t have a clue what is happening to our world.  They believe, “the climate is changing all the time”….and “God may want the earth to get warmer”.   *sigh*

 

The people of Miami are starting to believe.  Scientists say Miami will be under water by 2100.  Alton Road already floods in high tide when there is a full moon.  Some Hoax!!!! 


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Posted on Sun, May 25, 2014 19:57

Quoting Diana3316:

Yikes!!!  Is that true?  Well….don’t let the word get out because it will be a financial disaster for all the pharmaceutical and advertising companies that encourage men in every third TV commercial to pump themselves up with all kind of drugs and hormones in order to combat their ED……when all they really need is a good woman!

 

PS:  I'm not going to comment on your cat comment.

 



Just saying... I can't vouch for it's veracity. She had a propensity for exaggeration and questionable hygiene.  She was fond of the French bath.

 

Oh, that reminds me.  You mentioned that you preferred European men to Americans because they had fewer hangups.  Just curious, do you consider daily showers a hangup?  Have you ever been to Grasse, the perfume capital of the world... it's fun and you can mix your own scents.  Have to love a culture that favors smelling good to being clean  

 

I doubt the pharms and ad agencies will suffer.  They have Viagra for women now, a predictable market for HRT and bio-indenticals.... for all those non frigid women.

 

 

 



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Posted on Sun, May 25, 2014 08:41

Quoting 3345roc:

Hey Diana.... Strange those French, eh?

 

I dated a French woman and I do remember her name.  She said "there's no such thing as ED ... only incompetent women.

 

I know how closely you embrace converse logic so I'm sure you'll appreciate that.

 

She also replied, when asked if she liked cats.... "It depends on how they're prepared".  I've heard they have strange eating habits.



Yikes!!!  Is that true?  Well….don’t let the word get out because it will be a financial disaster for all the pharmaceutical and advertising companies that encourage men in every third TV commercial to pump themselves up with all kind of drugs and hormones in order to combat their ED……when all they really need is a good woman!

 

PS:  I'm not going to comment on your cat comment.

 



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Posted on Sat, May 24, 2014 16:22

Sex for a female I think is interesting, I believe it is the physical, spiritual, emotional and intellectual parts of a person colliding. I think sex can bring two people closer to wholeness if they focus on their partner's needs. I think sex is a selfless act. There are so many levels of ones self coming out. 

 

At times it is a power struggle to cross boundaries and essentially have each persons guard down. With women their guards lie in their emotions so if you can pin down her guards and have her drop them well before sex that's most of the battle, then connecting with her in a positive way is like mental foreplay to us, now well desire you before you even touch us. By that point if we are feeling safe with you, we are going to be so excited. By the time orgasm comes it reaffirms and enhances the connection we feel for you so when you act stupid we go through the but I love him trial with ourselves. Having an orgasm just deepens our bond and the affinity we have for you. Now if we get that on a repeated basis plus the positive interactions the whoed us to bed you keep us for life lol Idk what it's like for a man so I can't speak on that but when a man put the effort in to melt my heart I start craving him so much that I can't turn him down nor would I want to. If he doesn't put in work and is lazy he's not going to have me around for long. I need that deep connection. 

 

In man language youre a fox and she is a rabbit. She's gentle and she's grazing on a carrot. If you pounce after her she'll run but if you kept your distance and moved in slowly and she got used to you being around the rabbit won't be alarmed when you begin to get closer. If you gave the rabbit a carrott you'd have yourself a lifelong friend so when you go after your prey their guard is down... Sex works this way



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Posted on Sat, May 24, 2014 14:36

Quoting Diana3316:

Years and years ago I read a quote from a French man.....I wish I could find his name. 

 

He said:  "There's no such thing as a frigid woman....only incompetent men."



Hey Diana.... Strange those French, eh?

 

I dated a French woman and I do remember her name.  She said "there's no such thing as ED ... only incompetent women.

 

I know how closely you embrace converse logic so I'm sure you'll appreciate that.

 

She also replied, when asked if she liked cats.... "It depends on how they're prepared".  I've heard they have strange eating habits.



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Posted on Fri, May 23, 2014 17:02

Years and years ago I read a quote from a French man.....I wish I could find his name. 

 

He said:  "There's no such thing as a frigid woman....only incompetent men."



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Posted on Fri, Apr 11, 2014 05:42

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I never could stand it when past partners were not interested in finding out in the slightest about how to make me (their girlfriend) happy in that way. It made everything flat and built up a terrible wall between us. I hope I never again experience that wall. I wouldn't want to be with someone who didn't see me as entirely the feminine, sexually oriented all girl sort of person I am. i think for it to really work, everyone has to try and stay in the zone to avoid disaster. 



Years ago, after my split up, I learned a lesson when I got in the "game" again. I was driving home around 12:30 AM from my new gf at the time. While on the road, she rang me up on my cell. She began nagging me harshly along these lines: "I didn't get off." "What is the point of being intimate if I don't get an orgasm." and so on and so on.

 

So I had to turn around and go back to her house to complete the task. After that we were together 5 years, and I made sure that an incident like that never happened again.



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Posted on Fri, Apr 11, 2014 04:22

Quoting heathery:

I never could stand it when past partners were not interested in finding out in the slightest about how to make me (their girlfriend) happy in that way. It made everything flat and built up a terrible wall between us. I hope I never again experience that wall. I wouldn't want to be with someone who didn't see me as entirely the feminine, sexually oriented all girl sort of person I am. i think for it to really work, everyone has to try and stay in the zone to avoid disaster. 



What a bummer!  I just don't get it with these younger guys.  Next time get him a subscription to Cosmo.



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Posted on Sat, Apr 05, 2014 09:33

I never could stand it when past partners were not interested in finding out in the slightest about how to make me (their girlfriend) happy in that way. It made everything flat and built up a terrible wall between us. I hope I never again experience that wall. I wouldn't want to be with someone who didn't see me as entirely the feminine, sexually oriented all girl sort of person I am. i think for it to really work, everyone has to try and stay in the zone to avoid disaster. 



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Posted on Fri, Apr 04, 2014 07:09

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I would have liked to have seen you swinging off the tree :)  Glad you weren't hurt!  

 

As for me, I'm a klutz, always have been, always will be.  Gracefulness is something I am unfamiliar with.  Isn't being graceful boring though?

 

This isn't my photo but guess which one I would be.

 

 

 

 



The joy in that pictue, klutz or not, is wonderful.  Need to find four willing suspects.  Gives a whole new persspective on, "Öh go jump in the lake."



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Posted on Sun, Mar 30, 2014 17:59

Quoting DLeeD2014:

I hope I don't stir up too much with this, but I have to say a few things here... A lot of my gf's have a similar complaint among them...

 

If there's chemistry, it's usually hot and heavy at the beginning, but as all things do, things cool down.  Problem is men usually say as a pat answer that they can satisfy a woman, but they dabble.

 

...Lick, lick, squeeze, squeeze, poke, poke...then they can't take it anymore.  ...They get so worked up they have to eventually run for the border and finish up, and because we may squeal abit, they think they're king of the hill, when we're just getting started.  

 

Some only do what they perceive makes us feel good and they gage what they think is a necessary time limit until they can get theirs and get done.  I'm not saying all, but not many men savor the experience and are even genuinely interested in how we really tick and are genuinely willing to really find out, or even want to experience it as long as they can before they themselves climax.  

 

Soooo many of my gf's don't want it anymore because there's nothing in it for them and they realize that there never was from the beginning!  I've heard these comments hundreds of times.  In my experience, I have to agree.  

 

We all can gets sparks flying, but control and interest in another's anatomy and how it works should be a priority and a genuine want, not a duty to come across as being a considerate lover. 

 

And, to the host of this question... We'd want to keep up with the frequent intimacies, even initiate them more, if the man would learn how to make love to a woman with genuine interest, instead of just for a testosterone filled ride all the time.  And, yes...it goes both ways, for sure.

 

In my personal opinion ...both sexes who indulge in frivolous sex with unknown partners (one night stands, unemotional) or partners who they could care less about (unemotional), and/or too much masturbation (self satisfaction) outside of emotionally connected relationships can be a huge culprit in never learning how to connect with a another human being or wanting to.

 

We end up being the victim of our hormones and what we consciously or unconsciously condition ourselves to be, do, have.  Realizing how we personally function and conduct ourselves should be the starting point for correcting our behaviors.  It seems to me that we all want ...what we all want.  But, do we look past the passionate calling of hormones to ask ourselves if we really are decent lovers at the end of the day?

 

For women, again in my opinion... give us the time to warm up (as you've heard a million times before) being genuinely interested and proactive in arousing us for longer than a few seconds at each body part you grab, flick or poke at, and maybe, unless you're not a genuine piece of shit of a human being...we'll be running back for more!  

 

...And, that doesn't mean you have to work us over until you have lock jaw!  There's all kinds of ways and tools (lol) to help you out! (And, that could help men with erectile dysfunction or small penises, too.). ...Just get into it for OUR sake once in a while and get into the wonder of our bodies, instead of just until you've had enough.  And, just because we squeal for a bit doesn't mean we got ours!  ...GET THAT!

 

...Marvel at the evolution of all we can exude in the process of your explorations as part of your plan of attack!  

 

...Satisfy us!  And, talk to us in and out of bed.  Make us feel like you care, that we are wanted, important, loved, cherished...in bed, and WE MIGHT PUT UP WITH ANYTHING out of bed!  

 

I could bet most of us gals wouldn't be such 'bitches' if we weren't frustrated!  ...A few hours a week of real emotionally connected sexual play thrown in with random quickies would change the entire mood of a household.  Lol

 

Just a few thoughts.  (Omg...don't kill me here.  Please. Lol)

 



What a sad commentary on the current state of man.  I wonder if most of the women here have had similar experiences where men just hit and run.  I do feel sorry for them if they never have the experience of what a fully satisfied woman is capable of. 



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Posted on Sun, Mar 30, 2014 17:17

Quoting Dakota35:

It's funny because I don't feel like a grown-up yet, either.  Just wondering how many out there still feel like a kid, or feel like they are not fully a grown-up. :-)  

 

Not long ago, I climbed a tree and was hanging using my hands and feet.  The limb broke and I landed on the ground flat on my back.  I may have some kid left in me, but I have the weight of an adult. LOL

 

 



Sure hope you weren't hurt, Dakota.  That's exactly the kind of thing I still like to do.  Not the falling out of the tree--the climbing of the tree.  I'm 69 now and I still feel about 38.  Except on those mornings when my hips kind of hurt for no apparent reason.  But that passes pretty quickly. 

 

I'd say the only difference--a very subjective assessment--between me now and me at 38 is that at 38 [at at 8] I would climb a tree after just looking up for a few seconds.  Now I take the time to ascertain whether or not the limbs I'm going to have to cling to and climb up look like they MIGHT come crashing down once my weight is on them. 

 

What has taken hold of me in my so-called senior years?  Wisdom and/or Caution?  Or just plain fear?   I leave it up to whether or not, once the weather gets a little better, I actually climb a tree again and survive.  If and when I do it, I'll post a pic for sure. 

 

LMAO 

 

 

 



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Posted on Sun, Mar 30, 2014 17:06

Quoting Dakota35:

To satisfy a woman sexually, you must first satisfy her mind.  I think that is what most men do not understand.  And I believe there are many women out there, that do not know this themselves.



Oh, how right you are, Dakota.  How very right you are.



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