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Posted on Mon, Jan 13, 2014 13:00

Alright my very Good friend since High school is about to break her 1year engagement because her Fiance just cheated on her.. well his excuses ranged from..

1. I felt very lonely sometimes because we are in two different states( she was planning on selling her house here and then relocating to live with him few months to their wedding)

2. I was drunk and had no idea what I was doing

3. It was just a one night stand and have no feelings whatsoever for that girl

Well from what she(Fiancee) gathered, seems he has been seeing that other girl for a little while now but he still sticks to his excuse that it was just a one night stand and nothing more.

Now my question is: what is the worst thing a person in a relationship with you can do that will make you say "I've had enough", then END your relationship, an engagement or even a marriage!

Is there really an acceptable excuse for cheating?


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Posted on Tue, Feb 04, 2014 20:52

Quoting Diana3316:

I acknowledge the quotes from the E Nelson's op ed and I shouldn’t have been so lazy in my response, never the less, the sentiment is true and valid in my opinion.  As I have said in the past, we are doomed to commit the same mistakes over and over if we do not examine history to gain understanding of how we got here.  That is the mantra of this President.  Despite ample opportunity to conduct endless congressional hearings and/or criminal probes, he allowed potential criminals to go free, in order to promote a forward looking vision.  Examining history, cause and effect, in order to learn how not to follow failed policies is not blaming.  I could not let your back-handed slap stand!! 

 

Now if you have a legitimate topic to discuss, then please bring it forward…..but the insinuation that Ronald Reagan was somehow superior is not supported simply based on some photo op. 

 


Just trying to keep the record straight.  I guess that qualifies as a backhanded lsap

 

You claimed that Ronald Reagan said "greed is good".  He never did.   Everything you read on the internet is not necessarily true. 

 



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Posted on Tue, Feb 04, 2014 18:08

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I think you might be drinking Eric Nelson's Kool Aid.  Gordon Gecko, played by Michael Douglas, echoed those words in the movie "Wall Street" and not RR as Nelson suggests in the op-ed piece you quoted those statements from.

 

Here's an actual RR quote from his 1986 State of the Union...

 

"Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free." 


I acknowledge the quotes from the E Nelson's op ed and I shouldn’t have been so lazy in my response, never the less, the sentiment is true and valid in my opinion.  As I have said in the past, we are doomed to commit the same mistakes over and over if we do not examine history to gain understanding of how we got here.  That is the mantra of this President.  Despite ample opportunity to conduct endless congressional hearings and/or criminal probes, he allowed potential criminals to go free, in order to promote a forward looking vision.  Examining history, cause and effect, in order to learn how not to follow failed policies is not blaming.  I could not let your back-handed slap stand!! 

 

Now if you have a legitimate topic to discuss, then please bring it forward…..but the insinuation that Ronald Reagan was somehow superior is not supported simply based on some photo op. 

 



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Posted on Mon, Feb 03, 2014 22:10

Quoting Diana3316:

Ickkkkk......Ickkkkkk.....Ickkkkkk.....Roc!!!

 

 

When Republican President Ronald Reagan famously said "Greed is Good" the American public drank the cool-aid whole-heartedly. The Republican Party launched a campaign to undermine government and replace non-profit government services with for-profit free market business.  Anti-trust laws were weakened and regulations on the financial and banking sector were removed. These tactics can now be directly linked to our current financial crisis that ran amok because the driving principle of greed….was left unchecked.

 

The true face of the Republican mantra, "Greed is Good", has finally been seen for what it really is!   Ickkkkk!!!



I think you might be drinking Eric Nelson's Kool Aid.  Gordon Gecko, played by Michael Douglas, echoed those words in the movie "Wall Street" and not RR as Nelson suggests in the op-ed piece you quoted those statements from.

 

Here's an actual RR quote from his 1986 State of the Union...

 

"Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free." 



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Posted on Sun, Feb 02, 2014 08:48

Quoting 3345roc:

Don't tell me Don... it was Bush's fault, right?


Ickkkkk......Ickkkkkk.....Ickkkkkk.....Roc!!!

 

 

When Republican President Ronald Reagan famously said "Greed is Good" the American public drank the cool-aid whole-heartedly. The Republican Party launched a campaign to undermine government and replace non-profit government services with for-profit free market business.  Anti-trust laws were weakened and regulations on the financial and banking sector were removed. These tactics can now be directly linked to our current financial crisis that ran amok because the driving principle of greed….was left unchecked.

 

The true face of the Republican mantra, "Greed is Good", has finally been seen for what it really is!   Ickkkkk!!!



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Posted on Sun, Feb 02, 2014 03:44

Wow this is always a touchy subject, because nobody at the end of the day should have to be subjected to such emotional trauma and betrayal, unfortunately it is common in our society now, hence reason for the many breakups.    It purely is based upon forgiveness or not from the person whom is feeling the hurt.

 

Personally speaking ideal_Diamond  if your friend's partner to be gave a continental about her, he would have logically weighed up in his own mind, if i take this road of no return, are I prepared to face the consequences of my actions and more  importantly how would I feel if she was about to betray me in this way, sometimes people have to put the shoe on the other foot and place themselves mentally right at the time they are about to commit this deed, if you truly love the person you are with, irrespective of the distance between you both, you just would not go down that road in first instance because your love for one another would be at a point where the ultimate trust factor is cemented firmly in place, while your lives are currently on hold as your plans take affect.

 

I trust the best for your friend and she decides with her Womanly intuition what is the best course for her.



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Posted on Thu, Jan 30, 2014 15:20

Quoting DONTFITMOLD:

I was kidnapped,tied down and taken advantage of......it wasn't my fault



Don't tell me Don... it was Bush's fault, right?


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Posted on Sat, Jan 25, 2014 11:21

Quoting Diana3316:

NOW we're getting somewhere!!!  lololol  Someone buy me a T-shirt:  Women over 50 ROCK!!!




To the great gratitude of all men over 50.   : - )

 



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Posted on Thu, Jan 23, 2014 20:05

I was kidnapped,tied down and taken advantage of......it wasn't my fault


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Posted on Thu, Jan 23, 2014 18:04

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

HI PAT!!!! 

 

Might I also add......

 

First off anyone who feels "men never lose their urge to plant seeds..." 

 

INCORRECT!

 

In the same manner a woman goes through "mental".. Oh I mean menopause... HA!

 

MEN are being said to be a large issue with babies being born with AUTISM. In fact, it has been noted, men after the age of only 40 have increased chances of seeding children with birth defects. Men over 40 with AUTISM and men over 50, congenital heart failure and cleft palates and 6 rimes more likely for AUTISM... 

 

MEN HAVE A CLOCK AS WELL.. It just hasn't been noted until recent, as women have been the subject studies until now. 

 

FURTHER--- Who says women lose their sexual appetite? All my exes would laugh at that!! I too, am sick of hearing this!! True, some women joke not wanting, and some women do not....  and further, some women do have more "health issues" which may decrease their desire...

 

 

But, this by no means is all women.... Nor does it mean the woman who is going through a painful menopause doesn't desire sex.. It just becomes painful for some during that time, which can last years... :(

 

FACT: Many women are lost in day to day life and need to be "wooed" by their husbands who fail to "woo" anymore... A woman is made love to through her EARS before her legs... So should a man not tell her the things she yearns to hear so she can "feel" a certain way... YES.. Her sex drive might slack...  But, let another man come by and "WOO" her, and ZAP!! She becomes a "sexual goddess" again....

 

If you ever asked any man I've been with if I have always been extremely sexual???

 

Well, as my ex always used to say...

 

"A cold breeze blows...  Heck, you don't even need a breeze! We can't even go to the zoo without your affecting all the animals!" 

 

47 is around the corner and my sensuality is still intact!! (I'm just more selective these days!) 

 

BYE PAT!!!

 

HELLO EVERYONE!! WOW!! Two nights in a row?? 



Ditto, ditto, ditto.  Good post, Hope. Thanks for the elaboration.

 



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Posted on Thu, Jan 23, 2014 18:04

Quoting Diana3316:

NOW we're getting somewhere!!!  lololol  Someone buy me a T-shirt:  Women over 50 ROCK!!!



Hi, Diana.  YOU BET WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!  Women over 50 that is--we rock.

 

GO GIRLS!!!!!!!!!! 



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Posted on Wed, Jan 22, 2014 22:59

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'Scuze me, honey, but you are obviously far too young to be commenting on how women feel about sex after menopause.  Let me make it perfectly clear to you.

 

Some women may lose the desire for sex after menopause, but most of us do not.  Most of us go on feeling that urge until the day we die!!! 

 

As for those who do lose the desire for sex after menopause, I would like to suggest that the cause is often very dry skin, which can make sex very painful, unless one knows how to remedy the situation.  Which remedy-remedies--are readily available over the counter at your favorite drug store.

 

And allow me to add, I'm getting mighty sick and tired of reading all over the darn internet about how women over a certain age have no desire--or capacity--left for sex.  Most of which blogs and posts are written by women in their 20's, 30's and 40's.  Women who have no idea what the heck they are talking about.

 

 



HI PAT!!!! 

 

Might I also add......

 

First off anyone who feels "men never lose their urge to plant seeds..." 

 

INCORRECT!

 

In the same manner a woman goes through "mental".. Oh I mean menopause... HA!

 

MEN are being said to be a large issue with babies being born with AUTISM. In fact, it has been noted, men after the age of only 40 have increased chances of seeding children with birth defects. Men over 40 with AUTISM and men over 50, congenital heart failure and cleft palates and 6 rimes more likely for AUTISM... 

 

MEN HAVE A CLOCK AS WELL.. It just hasn't been noted until recent, as women have been the subject studies until now. 

 

FURTHER--- Who says women lose their sexual appetite? All my exes would laugh at that!! I too, am sick of hearing this!! True, some women joke not wanting, and some women do not....  and further, some women do have more "health issues" which may decrease their desire...

 

 

But, this by no means is all women.... Nor does it mean the woman who is going through a painful menopause doesn't desire sex.. It just becomes painful for some during that time, which can last years... :(

 

FACT: Many women are lost in day to day life and need to be "wooed" by their husbands who fail to "woo" anymore... A woman is made love to through her EARS before her legs... So should a man not tell her the things she yearns to hear so she can "feel" a certain way... YES.. Her sex drive might slack...  But, let another man come by and "WOO" her, and ZAP!! She becomes a "sexual goddess" again....

 

If you ever asked any man I've been with if I have always been extremely sexual???

 

Well, as my ex always used to say...

 

"A cold breeze blows...  Heck, you don't even need a breeze! We can't even go to the zoo without your affecting all the animals!" 

 

47 is around the corner and my sensuality is still intact!! (I'm just more selective these days!) 

 

BYE PAT!!!

 

HELLO EVERYONE!! WOW!! Two nights in a row?? 



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Posted on Wed, Jan 22, 2014 21:16

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'Scuze me, honey, but you are obviously far too young to be commenting on how women feel about sex after menopause.  Let me make it perfectly clear to you.

 

Some women may lose the desire for sex after menopause, but most of us do not.  Most of us go on feeling that urge until the day we die!!! 

 

As for those who do lose the desire for sex after menopause, I would like to suggest that the cause is often very dry skin, which can make sex very painful, unless one knows how to remedy the situation.  Which remedy-remedies--are readily available over the counter at your favorite drug store.

 

And allow me to add, I'm getting mighty sick and tired of reading all over the darn internet about how women over a certain age have no desire--or capacity--left for sex.  Most of which blogs and posts are written by women in their 20's, 30's and 40's.  Women who have no idea what the heck they are talking about.

 

 



NOW we're getting somewhere!!!  lololol  Someone buy me a T-shirt:  Women over 50 ROCK!!!



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Posted on Wed, Jan 22, 2014 17:43

Quoting Linglit:

Well all I can say is " it's all fun and games until someone falls in love or gets knocked up!" Someone's feelings will be hurt! You shouldnt be in a relationship if your gonna cheat unless your both willing to accept that and have an " open relationship".

I wanted to add one more thing to everyone's understanding MALE vs FEMALE. Men were built to reproduce their entire lives. Therefore a man's urge to plant seeds is for a life time. As for women we are only built to reproduce up until menopause. Women naturally lose the desire for sex.

~~~ Just my 2cents of feed back.

 

 



'Scuze me, honey, but you are obviously far too young to be commenting on how women feel about sex after menopause.  Let me make it perfectly clear to you.

 

Some women may lose the desire for sex after menopause, but most of us do not.  Most of us go on feeling that urge until the day we die!!! 

 

As for those who do lose the desire for sex after menopause, I would like to suggest that the cause is often very dry skin, which can make sex very painful, unless one knows how to remedy the situation.  Which remedy-remedies--are readily available over the counter at your favorite drug store.

 

And allow me to add, I'm getting mighty sick and tired of reading all over the darn internet about how women over a certain age have no desire--or capacity--left for sex.  Most of which blogs and posts are written by women in their 20's, 30's and 40's.  Women who have no idea what the heck they are talking about.

 

 



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Posted on Wed, Jan 22, 2014 08:51

Quoting Jenkneee:

Does that also mean that the best dates happen when you get stood up?

 

How about the best lives happen before you're born?

 

Not a fan of Roc's statement.


Oops, so sorry... guess that was a bit obscure.  I raised two beautiful and accomplished daughters and I was very protective... so I had some rules..

Cheating... one strike and he's out.

Anger Management issues don't resolve themselves.

If he hits you let me know and I'll kill him.

 

 

 so, let me restate it so there's no confusion.

 

If you're dating someone and red flags appear ( perhaps he smacks you around a bit when he's drunk )... serve him the divorce papers right then... don't wait 'til after you marry him.  Hope that clears that up.

 

Talk shows are littered with the bodies of young women who stay in relationships with abusive men who beat the crap out of them.  When asked they say " I love him", which brings me to rule No.2..

 

It should be illegal to to tell someone you love them unless you've known them for at least 6 months and have spent some non- quality time with them.  It takes time to get to know someone and, although I don't recommend it, the best measure of a man is how he acts when he's in a stressful situation.  Real men don't change.


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Posted on Tue, Jan 21, 2014 22:12

Quoting 3345roc:

The best divorces happen before marriage.



Does that also mean that the best dates happen when you get stood up?

 

How about the best lives happen before you're born?

 

Not a fan of Roc's statement.



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Posted on Tue, Jan 21, 2014 20:39

Quoting Diana3316:

Well...I am assuming your friend, like you, is about 29.  I suggest she drop him like a dirty rag.  His excuses are weak, juvenile and fake.  There are many, many options for a 29 year old woman in this world.  I would certainly not hang on to a falling star!  If this man cannot hang tough because of a long distance, he will not hang tough if she's big and pregnant or if the chips get down. 

 

This is not a disaster.  It's a blessing in disguise and a life lesson.  But most importantly she should not waste another minute of her precious time on a weak man that does not love her!  Tell her to put on a little black dress, fluff up her hair....and think of him no more!  JMO 



PREACH IT GIRLFRIEND!!! 

 

BWAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!! 



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Posted on Mon, Jan 20, 2014 15:38

The best divorces happen before marriage.



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Posted on Sun, Jan 19, 2014 22:59

Well...I am assuming your friend, like you, is about 29.  I suggest she drop him like a dirty rag.  His excuses are weak, juvenile and fake.  There are many, many options for a 29 year old woman in this world.  I would certainly not hang on to a falling star!  If this man cannot hang tough because of a long distance, he will not hang tough if she's big and pregnant or if the chips get down. 

 

This is not a disaster.  It's a blessing in disguise and a life lesson.  But most importantly she should not waste another minute of her precious time on a weak man that does not love her!  Tell her to put on a little black dress, fluff up her hair....and think of him no more!  JMO 



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Posted on Sun, Jan 19, 2014 08:53

Is there an excuse for cheating? Depends what you call cheating isn´t? When a woman or man loose her/his appetite to have intimate encounters and the other part still need it,is it acceptible then? For one of the partners not (mostly the one that loose appetite)...so ...you can call that also egoisme, if i dont want,she/he dousn´t have the right to have appetite neiter. The other partner also will have always the excuse to say...you can´t control yourself, we are no animals etc...thats the easy ones isn´t? We still have or needs as man or woman, and if the other not compare with it, well you can break up the relation, but still, the other will be hurt and felt treated bad, and thats normal. You can talk about open relationship then,humm...jealousy will come up, another dillema isn´t? So,best deal is...break up i guess...and now it comes...the one that is hurt will do everything to hurt the other one, try to get everything out of it, most of the time financialy. So to go back to the topic..is there an excuse for cheating? Nope,but turn the question to, Is there a reason for cheating? Yes there is, and if you can´t live with it...just seperate/divorce and leave the other in peace without trying to destroy her/his life for your own matrial benefits. And i know, a lot will disagree with me,but its the fact in life,dispite you disagree. There is a phrase that says, a woman needs to be happy to have sex (fill it in what makes her happy),a man needs sex to be happy(thats an easy one i guess) Enjoy your life ;-) .Theres not enough place to ex plane it well here,because there are to many pro/contra ,but i´ll will be happy to do that if you feel for it.



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