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Posted on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 21:24

♥♥♥ It is a sad moment in time when little innocent lives are so viciously taken. There simply is not, nor will there ever be, an explanation for something so heinous to occur. I am just reading of this horrific tragedy and just hours ago I was in a Catholic Cathedral praying for my own children's lives, though I am admittedly not Catholic. (I feel God hears regardless of religious preference. ) Tomorrow I will head back to the same spot and pray more fervently for those who have lost what they held most precious in their lives. GOD BLESS ALL THOSE SHAKEN BY THIS TRAGEDY AND MAY HE COMFORT THOSE IN THEIR SORROW.. ♥♥♥


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Posted on Fri, Jan 18, 2013 05:20

Quoting CarlosTJ:

I dont get it man. what are you smokin since you say drug addict.  you say you have your own Jesus, is he a chicano dude or what. and then your women is gonna get stone when your buddy is not aroun to save her.  now i have a serious question for you. how come you get saved when the guy was dead before you was born.    oh i get it, you have a body guard whose name is Hesus that you hang out with now to save you from the church ladies who are stoned.  Cool man and goodluck.



LOOK!! I think CARLOS is hangin with V and now they are on their way to pick up WILLIE!!! 

Heeheehee~~~

Man if they allowed links in here.. 

I love Cheech and Chongs "Santa Clause"!!!! 

"He gives the magic dust to the reindeer man... and they like.. fly all around the world man delivering toys to all the boys and girls dude!!"

Bwahahahaha!!!


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Posted on Fri, Jan 18, 2013 04:59

Dear CARLOS,

 

 

 

As I have said before.. 

 

 

 

WELCOME to the blogs... It's a whole different world in here for sure!

 

 

 

CARLOS, I had to read your comment 3 times, and it still appears the only person, with or without Jesus, getting STONED.... is you dear! LOL.. 

 

 

 

CARLOS, AND ALL READING..... 

 

 

 

This blog was a very nice blog where everyone got along and no one made lude or rude comments. In MY ROOMS, the "lion lays with the lambs" so to speak. I AM a believer in Jesus CARLOS, however, I feel no reason to rewrite (or preach) "The Super Testament" as some "church ladies" as you refer, professing love of God do. In fact, this blog was fantastic until I decided it best to ban one "Super Testament" writer when I received complaints about her dragging her lengthy preachy commentary to my room. Apparently, I was by far, not the only one this individual went to lengths to contact privately and "instruct" on what their thoughts should be regarding a certain atheist who was once on the boards. People were tired of it. 

 

 

 

Since then, this blog has been MIA a couple of times, and returned wounded! It is my understanding the ST writer complained like a small child upset over having ice cream taken away after I banned the insulting individual from my blog. Oh well.. I was not going to tolerate someone insulting me on my own blog and honestly, I had also grown sick of the excessive preachy postings on Jesus. I gave the blogger ample warning after she continuously contacted me privately telling me what a bad Christian I was and how I needed therapy. I am a very self-aware and self- assured individual and feel no need for "lectures" by "all knowing" individuals who feel above others and hold an insatiable appetite for attention. I don't and won't operate in that manner. In the bible I read there are scriptures "instructing" me NOT to argue with Non-believers. I don't need an individual professing Jesus to tell me how to conduct myself. I take my references directly to the Bible. 

 

 

 

CARLOS, the initial post no longer exists here. This was a blog about the horrific shooting in Newtown and everyone came together, Christians and atheist, to mourn a sad day for the world. I personally am a "Christian," however, my agnostic / atheist blogging buddies did not condemn my position. I am a respected blogger in this forum and have been for some time. CARLOS, to enlighten you, we did have discussions regarding God being allowed in school with prayer, and gun rights were mentioned etc... But in MY ROOMS, we do not insult or get nasty. I have a couple of "opposing viewers" here who "debate" and every time they ruffle one another, they have managed to conduct themselves in a classy and appropriate manner and wind up hugging in the end. As I said, "The lion lays with the lamb." (HI Lovely Lady DI and DAKOTA!! LOL) 

 

 

 

People, I don't, and won't tolerate nastiness on my own blogs. Since this whole ordeal with Voyager and the venom spewing back and forth, I have had enough. EVERYONE WHO GOT INVOLVED WAS WRONG! There was no "right side"... only survivors!!

 

 

 

Since then, my blogs have been tampered with, I have been privately and publicly insulted by a member for not joining in on the "Voyager lynching," and the blogs have not been so much fun. I have even considered leaving MM due to this. 

 

 

 

No one will come to my "corner" and insult or degrade another. 

 

 

 

Christian.... Agnostic... or Atheist....

 

 

 

NO ONE.... 



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Posted on Tue, Jan 01, 2013 05:11

DEAR FELLOW BLOGGERS....

 

 

 

For the second time in my history of blogging, I have felt forced to "Block/ Delete" and Ban a member from my thread. 

 

 

 

I awoke to 2 long winded posts, one insinuating I had "manipulated" his/her post and another lengthy post on Jesus which was copied and pasted they felt I had deleted? (or at least this was insinuated).. Then, as I read, yet another post popped up authored by the same gold member accusing me of "lying" about my educatonal background. (Yes, an admitted HS drop out is lying about her credentials! HA!) Anyway, between seeing 3 long posts in a row from the member and a recent past with this individual writing me multipe emails "instructing" me on how to conduct myself, telling me I needed therapy, how he/she would be happy to assist as this individuals "helps" people like me every day.. Well, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! 

 

 

 

My boobs and my buttocks may droop 3 inches lower than they did in 1985, and I may have to cover the grey with a long expensive trip to the parlour, 

 

 

 

BUT MY MIND IS ALMOST SOUND!! ;))))))

(OH.. and I don't lie on here and if anyone is skeptical of things I state regarding my life, education, age, wherabouts, etc.. feel free to leave my blogs at any time. I WON'T be badgered or taunted on my own blog.)

 

 

 

I am not here to fight and I stated before, I refuse to be drug into the pit. 

 

 

 

There is a "healthy" manner to profess love of Jesus and to display ones' Faith. I have grown tired of all the excessively long winded Jesus talk and additionally, I have grown tired of being "instructed" on what I should do or how I should act. 

 

 

 

If anyone holds issue with how I conduct myself in this forum, feel free not to read or contact me. Should anyone hold issue with my conduct on their blog, there is a BAN MEMBER button, utilize it. 

 

 

 

The Princess has had enough! ;)

 

 

 

Oh and Lady DI... I hate when that happens. Many of my posts were missing previously as well as DAKOTAS.. on another blog... However, I did see your original post and was, as usual, impressed by your level of class and style. It is important for us to try and remain as "ladies" and you manage to always glow with flying colors! ;)

 

 

 

~~SL / IC~~ IT WAS ME! AS soon as I read the post, well at first I thought it was V.. But then when someone mentioned you.. I thought, "Yeah, could be him as well." You can't fault people for thinking the same thing now SL.. If several people thought something, you must have somehow led them to believe you could act in that manner. I thought it was you B/C I've seen where you were really nasty once. I don't select the nasty road. So for the occurance now, I just chose to BLOCK.. 

 

 

 

I prefer LOVE over hate.. If an individual and I can't seem to have anything good to say to one another, then avoidance is best. I had not much good to say anymore and am monitoring myself from getting out of line. There is room in blogland for 2 people not to ever have contact. In this latest instance, that is what I am choosing! 

 

 

 

MAY 2013 BE A YEAR FOR HEALING AND GROWTH!! ;)



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Posted on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 12:04

Hi DAKOTA~~

 

Yes, I know regardless of "field" there are always individuals who are adept as well as inept at their performance. My daughter "served" me during Thanksgiving at the restaurant she works and I can honestly state.. SHE'S A GOOD LITTLE SERVER! If you make it to NC.. I will treat you to a burger and fries, MINUS THE PEANUTS! Heeheehee~~

 

Yes, I know what you refer to regarding enabling. DAK.. You know how much I care about you, we have shared a lot and I WANT you to understand.. You are in NO WAY responsible for what happened. I will email you soon. 

 

I liked your example and yes, it would be difficult. In nursing there is "triaging" and this is what would happen. However, I hold no doubt doctors and nurses are faced with those type situations daily across large cities.. What is meant to be cut and dry, via triage....  would be difficult if the gang banger was bleeding out and you saw the child suffer, but not near death! Guess that is the upside to us not being doctors! ;)  

 

I hope you have a great New Year!! 2013 is going to ROCK!! (IN a GREAT way!) 

 

 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 11:40

Dak~
 In nursing we receive extensive training in ‘Empathy’.  Empathy is defined as the capacity to recognize and acknowledge the feelings that are being experienced by another.  Before you can have compassion for another suffering human being, you must have a certain amount of empathy for them.  We are taught, regardless of how rude or irritating the patient is, it is always worse to be the one experiencing the personal crisis and likely they are doing the best they can, given the circumstances.

 

Dear WORLDMIND....

 

1) The post above was the part of the post where our REGISTERED NURSE, Lovely Lady DI, started discussing EMPATHY and COMPASSION. Note the word SYMPATHY was NOT involved.

 

2) I merely "broke EMPATHY and SYMPATHY down", as I did not feel the chart you posted truly gave meaning. Your "person falling in a hole" is a much better reflection of the differences, however, NEITHER words are to be confused with COMPASSION, which is why I addressed the word you posted. (Sympathy)   

 

3) I AM certified in the medical field, and I too, as our Lovely Lady DI, (though obviously not on her level of skill and expertise,) have been trained in the meaning of EMPATHY. Holding EMPATHY is necessary to complete our jobs in a manner reflecting what the medical field is all about.... HELPING OTHERS WHO CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES.  "Efficiency" for Nurses, Patient Care Techs, CNA's etc. is to HAVE A HEART. We don't have to "jump in the hole" (SYMPATHY) in order to help others, but we MUST have some amount of EMPATHY for others who are suffering.

 

4) Our levels of "empathy" differ, as do our personalities. How we care for our patients derives much from our personalitites, even more so than our training level. I have worked with nurses who were not the nicest or most outgoing individuals, but when they saw a patient suffering, their attitude drastically changed. They had a high level of EMPATHY.

 

5) In the medical field, we are warned to be careful of the "SYMPATHY TRAP." When we have patients relying on us for care, THEY can't afford for us to lose focus and hold a high regard of SYMPATHY for their situation. EMPATHY is what is needed. If we start "feeling" that strongly about their situation, we run the risk of becoming too emotional about the patient. They simply can't afford for us to jump too far in the hole with them; they just need us to SEE IT. They need us on the outside pulling them up. 

 

I am not certain what you meant by agree to disagree.. We stated the same thing regarding Empathy and Sympathy. 

 

Perhaps you are akin to SILVERLION who needs to read more closely. 

 

HI SL~~ I concur with DAKOTA... He merely stated he had heard it was you who was CC... (a person offended by Christians who said something nasty to him a while back. 

 

Either way, welcome back and I hope you will have some enlightening words in the future for us. I'll just avoid politics and religion... You seem to be pretty savvy about wine though! ;) 



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Posted on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 07:29

Dak~

"I was told by several members that, as you stated, MAYBE it was Voyager or SilverLion."

 

????  Hmmm.....rumors....and rumors of rumors.  What is the motive?  



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 23:02

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

Hey hey DAKOTA!! Love your footnote to Lady DI.. :))))

 

I "get" what you are saying regarding what Democrats stand for w/ schools and God, HOWEVER, I know many friends who are registered Demos and are DEVOUT CATHOLICS etc.. who would never allow God to be removed from ANYTHING if they could. Kind of like I am registered Republican, yet I believe in a woman's right to choose.. 

 

The bottom line is this... We ALL hold differing opinions, regardless our religion, political beliefs, race, economic status etc... BUT, ONCE AGAIN, when you and Lady DI have had a differing view, one of you has come forward and said, "Hey, sorry.. Didn't mean to offend. We both want the SAME end result, we just hold different views on how to go about it." 

 

You are correct Agnostic and atheist are far different, however, even an atheist can be "turned." ;) 

 

Now, as for my comments you dismissed!! LOL.. Tired DAK? 

 

I want to make sure you fully understand enabling and empathy have NOTHING to do with one another. I spelled it out very clearly. 

 

Now to respond to your Dr. Issues. DAKOTA, should you feel a Doctor of any sort allowed your loved one to die, then you should sue. HOWEVER, I caution anyone... Doctors are MERELY PEOPLE... They are fallable and make mistakes every day. MOST DOCTORS TRY THEIR BEST IN ***ALL AREAS.... (I know.. I've dated a couple! Heehee~~WOOPS!!) Sorry guys.. Having a flashback there! Okay, okay.. Back on track!

 

Anyway, DAK seriously, yes doctors are human and obviously they are not to judge, but to judge (or form an opinion) is human. However, what is possibly better stated as

 

Doctors / Nurses, etc. cannot allow their "judgment" of a patient, (or their family.. and trust me.. FAMILIES can give more grief at times than the patient!) to interfere with the delivery of their services. Is that a better way to put it Lady DI?  


If I worked for a plumbing company and was called out to fix the pipes of a home owned by someone I didn't like, do you think I would do a bad job.  Nope, I get paid, it's my job and I should do my job as trained.  And I sure wouldn't want to get called back to fix a bad job or get sued.  On the other hand, can you say that everyone would do the same?

 


Have you ever tried to sue a Doctor?  Doctors are like cops, they stick together.  I tried to sue home health once and it was a joke...despite having photos and a ton of evidence. 

 

I am fully aware of the difference between enabling and empathy.  Make sure you also keep it in mind, think, think, think.  And I believe we had this discussion in private and there were some discrepancy in our opinions.

 

 

I stand by my statements that doctors and nurses do judge.  And your statement   "Doctors / Nurses, etc. cannot allow their "judgment" of a patient, (or their family.. and trust me.. FAMILIES can give more grief at times than the patient!) to interfere with the delivery of their services"

 

Instead perhaps you should have said; Doctors / nurses, etc. have been trained not to allow their "judgement" of a patient, yada, yada, yada..... yet one cannot make such a blanked statement when we know that there are plenty of occasions that they do (but apparently you did make the statement, so there you go).  It's the exception to every rule, thingy.  "cannot" is the problem word...what is keeping them from "cannot"? 

 

Hypothetically speaking;  Let's say I'm a doctor in a emergency room, a known gang member is brought in with gunshot wounds, within seconds a 9 year old child is brought in with gunshot wounds from the same incident.  Well guess what, I'm not stupid...for me that child's life is more valuable...so if I have to make a choice, it's going to be the child.  You can argue that is wrong, but to me it's right...and I would live with that choice with no regrets, even if the gang member died.  On the other hand, if I did not attend to the child and the child died, I would have a much harder time living with my decision.  JMHO



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 22:50

Hope~

I would like to take just one more moment in which to congratulate you on your understanding of the role caregivers strive for, in order to be able to forge relationships with others in order to help.  You really should try to find a way to get back in school.  You would make a good nurse.  You are a hard worker and have the organization skills that would make you a success.  It’s too bad that a lot of the education money is drying up, but you should try to find a way….even if it takes you years!  (Look for Pell Grants)  You are still a young woman.  Stop waiting around for Prince Charming.  He may never come.  Or he may be in a hospital ….a nurse…a doctor…a Physical Therapist….just waiting for YOU to show up there.  No doubt it’s hard…but find a way to invest in yourself!!

Take good care.

~D



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 22:31

Quoting silverlion:

~~ Dakota 35 ~~

 

With All Due Respect to The Author and Sensitive Nature of Her Topic, I Hereby Request that You Kindly leave Me out of Your Opinions and Unfounded Allegations.

 

Thank You Sir.

 

~~ S L ~~



With all due respect, Obviously SilverLion, you do not read closely enough.  You need to tell others to leave you out, I was just stating what I was told by multiple people on these blogs.  I never accused anyone. Furthermore, I would never accuse anyone of anything unless I was 100% sure.  Read closely what I wrote.



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:00

 

Okay guys, 

 

Allow me to SIMPLIFY this, as we now have a NEW WORD added in.. LOL

 

EMPATHY and SYMPATHY are "similar" in meaning... 

 

Broken down in medial terminology, they BOTH mean "WITH EMOTION"

 

(NOT Disease as some reference to "pathy" means..)

 

IE: Neuro "pathy" ... the meaning "Neurological disease" 

 

EM / PATHY = IN EMOTION

 

SYM / PATHY = IN EMOTION

 

EMPATHY is an "UNDERSTANDING"

 

SYMPATHY goes beyond "understanding to actually "feeling" the emotions or pain inflcited upon another individual. 

 

HOWEVER, these are so closely related, we rarely in the medical field have need to "compare" them, as the MAIN OBJECTIVE is a human being having EITHER / OR ...

 

Which was lady DI's point.. You can't hold COMPASSION without...

 

The feeling "WITH" or "FOR" the individual... which thereby derives

 

COMPASSION...

 

Now, what is passion?

 

Guess what? NOT EVEN A MEDICAL WORD REALISTICALLY.. LOL

 

COM = Together (Medically)

 

PASSION = (Latin, "passio"... which actually implies a "suffering" of sort)

 

Place those together which is how we "disect" words medically... and you get.. 

 

"Together Suffering" 

 

When one Holds COMPASSION, they "suffer" WITH the individual.. TOGETHER / SUFFER... 

 

I can tell you when I was in my medical classes MANY moons ago... At first medical terminology had me baffled.. All these crazy, big, unspellable words being thrown at me... 

 

THEN, you learn to "break them down"..

 

(Much like English class when we did the sentence diagrams) 

 

Choleocystectomy:

 

CHOLE(o) =  BILE or GALL

 

CYST = Urinary bladder, cyst or sac of fluid

 

ECTOMY = removal, excision, resection

 

Choleocystectomy = Removal of my Gallbladder... 1999.. LOL.. 

 

Colectomy

 

COL = Colon

 

ECTOMY = Removal, excision, resection

 

COLECTOMY = Removal of (parts of) my colon ... 2005

 

Notice ECTOMY ALWAYS means YOU GET CUT!! ..

 

HysterECTOMY (Uterus), MastECTOMY (Breast), NephrECTOMY (Kidney)

 

ITIS = "Inflammation" 

 

Dermat-ITIS (Skin)

 

Col- ITIS (Colon)

 

Gingiv- ITIS (Gum)

 

COLOSTOMY 

 

COL (o) = Colon (Large Intestine)

 

STOMY = New Opening 

 

Colostomy is forming an opening for bile (Colon)  to be expelled from your body..

 

(In short? ... Crap Bag! Bwahahaha!!) 

 

COLORECTAL ANASTOMOSIS? (Whew!) 

 

Don't let it scare ya people! It's just putting a colon back together to get rid of that stupid bag that saves between 75 and 100 THOUSAND peoples lives each year!! SAVED MINE IN 2005!!!

 

Aren'tcha glad the Princess is here!! ;)

 

You'd be missing out on your Latin lesson today had I died! Bwahahahaha!! ~~

 

Wrds are kinda like LIFE tome.. You just have to "Break it Down" and find it's meaning... 

 

I have endured a lot in life, therefore I have A LOT of

 

"Empathy" and "Sympathy" for other individuals...

 

Which is what poses me to hold so much "Compassion" for people....

 

That's why, for me...

 

At the end of the day...

 

I realise, some people might just be in a bit of pain over what they have endured in life and this may make them appear angry or bitter at times... and they may lash out when they shouldn't. 

 

I see BEYOND that level...

 

But I guess that's why I was so adored when I worked in the medical field. 

 

I find good in everyone and "understand," (EMPATHY) and often "feel" (SYMPATHY) their individual pain. 

 

Which makes me COMPASSIONATE!! ;)))) 

 

Keepin It Real~~ 

 

 

 

 



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 06:31

Hey hey DAKOTA!! Love your footnote to Lady DI.. :))))

 

I "get" what you are saying regarding what Democrats stand for w/ schools and God, HOWEVER, I know many friends who are registered Demos and are DEVOUT CATHOLICS etc.. who would never allow God to be removed from ANYTHING if they could. Kind of like I am registered Republican, yet I believe in a woman's right to choose.. 

 

The bottom line is this... We ALL hold differing opinions, regardless our religion, political beliefs, race, economic status etc... BUT, ONCE AGAIN, when you and Lady DI have had a differing view, one of you has come forward and said, "Hey, sorry.. Didn't mean to offend. We both want the SAME end result, we just hold different views on how to go about it." 

 

You are correct Agnostic and atheist are far different, however, even an atheist can be "turned." ;) 

 

Now, as for my comments you dismissed!! LOL.. Tired DAK? 

 

I want to make sure you fully understand enabling and empathy have NOTHING to do with one another. I spelled it out very clearly. 

 

Now to respond to your Dr. Issues. DAKOTA, should you feel a Doctor of any sort allowed your loved one to die, then you should sue. HOWEVER, I caution anyone... Doctors are MERELY PEOPLE... They are fallable and make mistakes every day. MOST DOCTORS TRY THEIR BEST IN ***ALL AREAS.... (I know.. I've dated a couple! Heehee~~WOOPS!!) Sorry guys.. Having a flashback there! Okay, okay.. Back on track!

 

Anyway, DAK seriously, yes doctors are human and obviously they are not to judge, but to judge (or form an opinion) is human. However, what is possibly better stated as

 

Doctors / Nurses, etc. cannot allow their "judgment" of a patient, (or their family.. and trust me.. FAMILIES can give more grief at times than the patient!) to interfere with the delivery of their services. Is that a better way to put it Lady DI?  



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Posted on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 00:31

Quoting Diana3316:

Dak~

 I don't even know where to start.

 

 I have no idea who this CC person is. I thought he was a new comer that joined in the conversation for the first time.  I tried to view his profile, but he had already left.  Re: SL and Voyager…..hmmmm…while SL may have similar views on cultural issues as me, rarely did I ever see him express them….certainly never as verbosely as some others here.  And if the truth be known…..I cannot even recall once, that Voyager ever said, ”I agree with you Di”.  In fact he and I disagreed on everything from taxes, politicians, gun control...to age appropriate relationships. I have no idea about the aliens....and whoever said anything about hating God???  Never the less, I didn’t know we were on teams.  I thought this was an open forum and we were all here exchanging ideas, thoughts and jokes…..until expelled. 

 

I’m not sure which city I would choose.  In my opinion, proclaiming certain religious beliefs does not guarantee goodness.  Exactly.....how do you tell a "true Christian" verses a true Atheist????

 

 "A true Christian believes in good, kindness and doing what is morally right." Are you saying that atheists or agnostics don't believe in these things?  I reject that notion! 

It's obvious you have some serious prejudice and vanity issues, while having no idea how or why some people have come to question the validity of what the Bible says.  You assume it is because they hate God and are immoral.

I believe I'm going to take a little break. I think I've just about had it.  Happy New Year.



Okay, let me clear up so things.  I never said you knew who CC was.  And I sure don't know, nor will I accuse.  I was told by several members that, as you stated, MAYBE it was Voyager or SilverLion. 

 

 

Yes, when it comes to political issues, SilverLion seems to be more in line with your position.  Voyager is in fact much more Republican like on the issues you stated.  But...when it comes to God, it seems you and Voyager are on the same page.  I guess what caught my attention was your "Dear God" post on this blog.  It seems as you are making a statement more than asking a true question.  As you know, I do agree with the image that Hoping posted.  You are a Democrat and it is well known that Democrats want God excluded from all public places.  If you have a different position, then please let it be known, but your post seem to indicate this.  Also, I would like to point out to all that there is a big difference in agnostic and atheist.  And I do not know how you identify yourself.  We are all agnostic to some extent (I may get in trouble for that one).  As for "teams", no as far as I know there are no teams, but when people seem to be in agreement it looks as a "team".  I for one am a independent thinker, I don't like "teams" as they seem to sway beliefs.

  

It is difficult to tell a true Christian and my question was hypothetical.  There are huge numbers of hypocrites within the Christian community.   There are people that are Christian by name only, people that use the Christian name for gain, extreme misguided Christians that screw up their kids.  So yes it is a difficult job, but over time you can tell by a persons actions, what they say, and how they conduct themselves.

 

A agnostic is a person that questions God existence, but has come to the conclusion that they just don't know..they are seeking.  A atheist totally rejects the idea of a supreme creator.  So we are talking about two different beliefs. 

 

No Diane, I have no prejudice or vanity issues, I am opinionated.  Anyone that has had any interaction with me knows I am humble and respectful. And if I ever do feel a little vane, all I have to do is look in the mirror. :)  I am one that does not take all that is in the Bible literally, the Bible is full of symbolism,...I have a scientific mind, and to do so would make me feel foolish.  But with that said, I would never, speak out against a religion nor try to get it excluded as long as the religion teaches good, peace, and morality.  I am accepting of all religions of peace, even though I may not share their beliefs.

 

Lastly, Diane it was not my intentions to anger you.  Let me apologize right now if I have done so.  Writing on these blogs take up a lot of time, sometimes I am tired and do not express things in a elegant manner.  I am sure I am guilty.  Diane, what I write is nothing personal against you, It is just that we share the opposite beliefs.  I believe the world will be better with my beliefs, and you believe the world will be better the way you believe.  So I guess, we'll just have to agree that we both want the world to be a better place. Once again, I apologize if I have offended you.

 

As for people being removed.  I feel that no one should be removed as long as they conduct themselves in a respectful manner. 



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Posted on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 21:23

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

Oh and couple more things real quick... 

 

 

 

NO DAK~

 

 

 

In the medical field, one is NOT allowed to "judge" .. This is exactly what makes so many men and women like DI so special and to be revered in society.

 

 

 

Obviously, we are all human and this is difficult, BUT...

 

 

 

Allow me to give you an example...  

 

 

 

Say the kid who did this horrific shooting had been shot by police and had to be taken to the hospital to SAVE HIS LIFE. The doctor on call is not allowed by hypocratic OATH to turn that man away or give him half-azzed care. He/She CANNOT allow that man to die without granting him every bit of assistance he/she can possibly give.

 

 

 

DOCTORS AND NURSES DO THIS EVERY DAY!! Kids come in shot up all over the place and land in the hospital. Doctors KNOW they are gang bangers.. They still must give all possible care. NO TIME TO JUDGE.

 

 

 

In reference to Jesus and the adultress woman.  

 

 

 

CONDEMN-

 

















Verb



















  1. Express complete disapproval of, typically in public; censure.


  2. Sentence (someone) to a particular punishment, esp. death: "the rebels had been condemned to death".



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John 3:17

 

 

 

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

 

 

 

Hope this helps!



Tell that to the doctor that allowed my grandmother to die of a ulcer, because he worried my mom was over burdened. (My my has MS.)

 

Tell that to a top surgeon who I highly respected (family friend) at one time, until I found out he molested his children.

 

There are example after example.

 

The protocol in the medical field is not to "judge", but rest assured all people judge.  The training is to do their job to the best of their ability without exception, but there is still judgement.  One cannot group all in the same category as there are exceptions to every rule.  No one is a machine, we are human and to judge is human.



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Posted on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 22:22

Oh and couple more things real quick... 

 

 

 

NO DAK~

 

 

 

In the medical field, one is NOT allowed to "judge" .. This is exactly what makes so many men and women like DI so special and to be revered in society.

 

 

 

Obviously, we are all human and this is difficult, BUT...

 

 

 

Allow me to give you an example...  

 

 

 

Say the kid who did this horrific shooting had been shot by police and had to be taken to the hospital to SAVE HIS LIFE. The doctor on call is not allowed by hypocratic OATH to turn that man away or give him half-azzed care. He/She CANNOT allow that man to die without granting him every bit of assistance he/she can possibly give.

 

 

 

DOCTORS AND NURSES DO THIS EVERY DAY!! Kids come in shot up all over the place and land in the hospital. Doctors KNOW they are gang bangers.. They still must give all possible care. NO TIME TO JUDGE.

 

 

 

In reference to Jesus and the adultress woman.  

 

 

 

CONDEMN-

 

















Verb



















  1. Express complete disapproval of, typically in public; censure.


  2. Sentence (someone) to a particular punishment, esp. death: "the rebels had been condemned to death".



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John 3:17

 

 

 

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

 

 

 

Hope this helps!



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Posted on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 22:21

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Fishy~

A trip to Alaska is definitely on my bucket list.  I would love to see Glacier Bay and a whale up close.  You never know....I just might make it up there.  I have a ton of hotel and airfare points.  Could you take me salmon fishing?????  I love to fish .....but I don't clean 'em.  Mostly because I'm incompetent with a knife....at least a very sharp knife.  :))  *wink*



  Di,Rent a van,buy a new mattress,camp stove,waterjug.Get a seasonal parks camping permit and travle baby!Any state campground you can stay at,with the permit you don't have to pay the daily fee.Hotel up when you're looking for long hot bath then hit the road again.When you're headed home,donate your things to a goodwill.Your thousands of dollars ahead and get to see what you want.

  Now as for salmon,my goal is to catch them by the tons daily [its a commercial thingy].Of course last year sucked Bigtime but farmers can understand that.I have been known to sometimes catch them with a rod and reel but you would have more fun.I can also clean them and cook them,remember gastrosexual?Baby,you've not had fishy cook fish yet.

 


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Posted on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 22:03

Quoting Dakota35:

From now on, I'm going to limit my response since it seems many of my posts have been removed.

 

 

Diane, Empathy is a wonderful trait.  But be very careful as sometime Empathy can be viewed as accepting and enabling, which ultimately will cause more pain.

 

 

Drug addict utilizes your clinic, you can be empathetic but still be critical of his/her behavior.  Do you really think Jesus condoned the woman's adultery?  My Jesus would not and would have tried to teach the lady that she was doing wrong...ultimately making her life better. (keeping her from being stone later when he wasn't there to save her)


Hi DAKOTA.... I am having the same issues with my post!! It is becoming irritating. I contacted MM yesterday to ask why. They stated they have no record of anything though.. WIERD??

 

Anyway, before I can respond to Lady DI's thoughts, I wish to make something perfectly clear to you and to anyone reading.......

 

EMPATHY has NOTHING to do with ENABLING...

 

BROKEN DOWN:

 

EM= in

 

PATHY= emotion

 

One is "IN EMOTION" 

 

EMPATHY is merely being able to "wear someone else's shoes and see how they feel." 

 

That's it! THEN, as our Lady DI pointed out, having this EMPATHY (Emotion for another) leads a person to show compassion. I think where people get confused here is that "Empathy" by rights is a noun... Whereas, "compassion" is a word of ACTION. Empathy a "feeling"... Compassion is "acting on that feeling." One "FEELS" EMPATHY... ONE "SHOWS" COMPASSION. I hope I am making sense here to anyone reading. Medical terminology is vital in our health industry and people need to be aware of what the terms refer and not re-make words to what they think they mean. 

 

ENANBLING in medial terms is considered (for the most part) when one individual "assist" or "promotes" another individual to act in self-destructive behavior. IE: If you know someone is an alcoholic and you drop them off at the bar or give them money you KNOW they are going to use for alcohol. Or if you take a drug addict to the "special corner" to score. THOSE INSTANCES ARE ENABLING and have NOTHING to do with EMPATHY.

 

Now, WHY are you confused? You are confused due to the fact most people want to think an "enabler" portrays their actions due to "feeling sorry or feeling pain" for another individual. WRONG. An "enabler" actually has issues themselves. (Usually stemming from a dysfunctional childhood) When enabling transpires, and continues to exist, the relationship now becomes co-dependent. NOTE: CODEPENDENCY and ENABLING often go hand in hand.

 

The "basics" in a co-dependent relationship is when one individual places another person's value over their own in an UNHEALTHY manner. This individual will start to feel as if THEY are responsible for the other person's actions. NOT ALL BATTERED WOMEN DON'T LEAVE DUE TO BEING AFRAID! Many battered women are in co-dependent relationships. They take their spouse back after getting beaten due to their OWN NEED TO FEEL NEEDED. They care for the batterer and place the perpetrator's value ABOVE THEIR OWN (and often their children) and even start to FAULT THEMSELVES (FEEL RESPONSIBLE) for the batterers actions against them. CO-DEPENDENCY IS A SICKNESS AND SHOULD BE RECOGNISED AS SUCH! In this, the codependent person is not forcing the person with the "issue" to take responsibility for their actions which therefore makes them an "enabler" of sorts. (Lots of differing ways to be an enabler mind you) Pretty sad situation I've mentioned considering now the battered victim is labeled twice. BATTERED WOMEN ARE NOT HEALTHY WOMEN. A HEALTHY WOMAN LEAVES THE RELATIONSHIP! This is a vicious cycle that costs many lives each year, as the women who are in the mix of this are in serious need of emotional health rescue, with serious self-esteem and value issues as well as needing physical rescue. 

 

THIS IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH EMPATHY... 

 

I wanted to clear this up first. 



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Posted on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 21:37

Quoting Dakota35:

Well it seemed CC was a ally, as he was in agreement with something you said.  I think SilverLion agrees with you on most things, and Voyager's got the God hate thing going. 

 

This is what I don't get, and I'll make it short.  A true Christian believes in good, kindness, and doing what is morally right.  Why would you want to try to convince them not to believe?  Do you realize that their belief is what keeps many of these people from doing evil?  When I say evil, I mean across the board, stealing, killing, rape, etc.  Surely this is not what you want?  So why do you care, you should be happy.

 

Just speaking for myself.  If I were not a believer, I'd be a much wealthier person.  I'd be a big time drug dealer, build subs to ship coke to the US.  Easy money....but my religious beliefs keep me from doing so, because it's wrong.  I've see the lives that drugs destroy.  And with drug dealing comes murder.  But without my beliefs as a Christian, there would be nothing keeping me from doing this.  You see, I'm arrogant in regards to my abilities in coming up with plans to not get caught.  But, I have to answer to God, therefore I will never do such. 

 

If you were standing at the gates of 2 separate cities and you had to enter one.  One city was inhabited by true Christian and the other was all atheist.  In these cities people were starving to the point of death.  Which city would you enter?



Dak~

 I don't even know where to start.

 

 I have no idea who this CC person is. I thought he was a new comer that joined in the conversation for the first time.  I tried to view his profile, but he had already left.  Re: SL and Voyager…..hmmmm…while SL may have similar views on cultural issues as me, rarely did I ever see him express them….certainly never as verbosely as some others here.  And if the truth be known…..I cannot even recall once, that Voyager ever said, ”I agree with you Di”.  In fact he and I disagreed on everything from taxes, politicians, gun control...to age appropriate relationships. I have no idea about the aliens....and whoever said anything about hating God???  Never the less, I didn’t know we were on teams.  I thought this was an open forum and we were all here exchanging ideas, thoughts and jokes…..until expelled. 

 

I’m not sure which city I would choose.  In my opinion, proclaiming certain religious beliefs does not guarantee goodness.  Exactly.....how do you tell a "true Christian" verses a true Atheist????

 

 "A true Christian believes in good, kindness and doing what is morally right." Are you saying that atheists or agnostics don't believe in these things?  I reject that notion! 

It's obvious you have some serious prejudice and vanity issues, while having no idea how or why some people have come to question the validity of what the Bible says.  You assume it is because they hate God and are immoral.

I believe I'm going to take a little break. I think I've just about had it.  Happy New Year.


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Posted on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 23:50

Quoting fishyme:

  Hi our Lady Diana,Back @ cha with belated merry christmas.Doing good here,warmed up to +27 as I reply.Anything above zero is warm,as any northerner anywhere will proberly agree,lol.I really like your little redheaded friend,she almost looks like she wears those berries for a bonnit.My little birds don't have the bright colors but do flock together 20 birds or so and fly tree to tree almost as one.Fun to watch.

  Have you ever thought about checking out the Soldotne hospital around here?BIG remodel last year and I understand everyone is happy with it [I myself try really hard to stay out of hospitals][no they don't open a bridge under construction for a broken finger,you've got to go the long way][25 miles just became 45,lol][sooo,I DO KNOW where it is when needed,lol].

  Wintertime might not be your cup of tea unless your a real snowbunny but around April things start getting nice until the May thaw when Everything turns to mud for a month.Thankfully thats the start of salmon season so I often miss it.

  No hurries on the gun thing,I feel thats going to be around for awhile.You be safe on that road and I hope your travels are fun happy ones.I'll have my friend here keep an eye out for you.


Fishy~

A trip to Alaska is definitely on my bucket list.  I would love to see Glacier Bay and a whale up close.  You never know....I just might make it up there.  I have a ton of hotel and airfare points.  Could you take me salmon fishing?????  I love to fish .....but I don't clean 'em.  Mostly because I'm incompetent with a knife....at least a very sharp knife.  :))  *wink*


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Posted on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 21:12

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Hey Fishy~

How are you?  Merry belated Christmas!  I've been thinking of you and wanted to respond to you on the gun issue....but just couldn't seem to find the heart for it.  I will soon be hitting the road again and am grateful for a busy New Year.  Hope you are well.

Take good care.

~D



  Hi our Lady Diana,Back @ cha with belated merry christmas.Doing good here,warmed up to +27 as I reply.Anything above zero is warm,as any northerner anywhere will proberly agree,lol.I really like your little redheaded friend,she almost looks like she wears those berries for a bonnit.My little birds don't have the bright colors but do flock together 20 birds or so and fly tree to tree almost as one.Fun to watch.

  Have you ever thought about checking out the Soldotne hospital around here?BIG remodel last year and I understand everyone is happy with it [I myself try really hard to stay out of hospitals][no they don't open a bridge under construction for a broken finger,you've got to go the long way][25 miles just became 45,lol][sooo,I DO KNOW where it is when needed,lol].

  Wintertime might not be your cup of tea unless your a real snowbunny but around April things start getting nice until the May thaw when Everything turns to mud for a month.Thankfully thats the start of salmon season so I often miss it.

  No hurries on the gun thing,I feel thats going to be around for awhile.You be safe on that road and I hope your travels are fun happy ones.I'll have my friend here keep an eye out for you.


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