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Posted on Mon, Jul 15, 2013 11:05

LET'S RELOOK AT THE FACTS: (We can have our own little JURY here.. LOL)

I will play BOTH sides of the fence...

 

 

NOTHING BUT FACTS HERE ON OUT--- 

 

FACTS: Trayvon Martin Height and Weight from Official Coroner Report... (just hours after DEATH) 

 

The "KID" <---- *(Sorry folks, not trying to "sway" the JURY here, but he BY LAW, WAS a minor and had just seen his 17th birthday.... )

 

was 71 inches tall and weighed 158 lbs.... 

12 X 6 = 72 inches... 

 

This makes him UNDER 6' tall and weighs LESS or AVERAGE of most WOMEN reading this.... 

 

LIFESTRONG: According to the CDC, as of the time period 1999 to 2002, non-Hispanic white women weighed between 158 and 161.7 pounds, black women weighed between 176.6 and 182.4 pounds and Mexican-American women weighed between 150.7 and 157.1 pounds.

 

So, let's just CLARIFY the kid's Height / Weight FIRST for all those curious... 

 

UNDER 6' / UNDER 160 POUNDS

 


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Posted on Mon, Jul 15, 2013 11:03

Diana, I like your response better than mine. 

 

RMac



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Posted on Mon, Jul 15, 2013 11:00

Hi Dakota,

 

 

Maybe the jury should follow the law, but the truth is once they go back into their deliberations they are the law.  They may try their best to follow the rules as laid out by the judge, but often (and maybe always) emotions play a huge part in the decision. 

 

 

Racism was a part of this from the get go.  It just seems strange that no black persons were on the jury.  If they feel they were not fairly represented by their peers I would not blame them. 

 

 

Why might I have gone back to beat the crap out of him?  I might not have, I was generally pretty respectful of adults.   So, had he been behaving in a non-threatening way I likely would have given him the benefit of the doubt and listened to his story. 

 

 

However if he had scared the crap out of me, followed me with no cause and no uniform, and chased me with a motor vehicle.  I might have confronted him and if his identity was not forthcoming quickly enough I might have decked him. 

 

 

Why?  When I was in grade school I was always the youngest in my class.  Everyone was a year older.  My kindergarten year was uneventful.  My teacher loved me and my older brother was at the same facility.  No one dared touch me. 

 

 

My older brother went on to high school the following year.  Different teacher.  I was bullied by everyone.  It did not stop until I could hit the meanest of the lot harder than he could hit me.  This happened maybe as early as the second grade.   Running away had pretty much been erased from my options.

 

 

So, I don’t know, I might have decked him.  I would not have jumped on top of him. 

 

 

Today I am saner than last night.  Tomorrow, no promises.

 

 

 

RMac
 

 



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Posted on Mon, Jul 15, 2013 00:05

It seems curious that black men are so often profiled as monsters, but never allowed to be the ones afraid of monsters!  How does a lone 17 year old black kid walking done the street, just trying to get home, become the scary one?

 

Let's take a closer look at George Zimmerman’s Criminal History.  As a Child up to his late teens, for a decade, he is accused by his female cousin of sexually molesting her beginning when she was 6 years old.  As an Adult, physically abused his Ex-Wife; she had a Restraining Order against him and later the Charges were dropped.  He assaulted a Police Officer and interfered when the Officer was arresting one of his friends at a Bar.  He had to take Anger Management Courses and later those Charges were once again dropped.  Now he Stalked and Killed an Unarmed 17 year old child after he disobeyed the 911 Operator's instructions not to follow. 

 

He also admitted to Police that night that he was taking Prescription Drugs Xanex and Adderall, which are known to cause "worsening mental or mood problems (eg, aggression, anxiety, delusions, depression, hallucination, hostility) and also Temazepam which can cause hyperhydrosis, hypotension, burning eyes, changes in libido, hallucinations.  The Jury wasn't allowed to hear this and they let him walk.

 

Note:  Marijuana has no side effects such as aggression or agitation.  It should also be noted that the level in Trayvon’s blood was well below the level for impairment.

 

All his life, because of the status of his Father, who was a Judge and his Mother and Uncle who also work in the Courts, Zimmerman has able to get away with crimes that would have had anyone else behind bars or at least with a Criminal Record which would have disallowed him from possessing a Gun Legally.  His crimes have escalated from Molester to Wife Beater to Assaulting Police Officers to now Murder and once again he is getting away with it. 

 

The Criminal Case is over, but the way Zimmerman has been escalating his crimes and been allowed to get away with them, time will tell when he will once again commit another crime.  George Zimmerman is a Serial Criminal.

 

The dignity in which the Martin family has conducted themselves throughout this horrible ordeal is nothing short of extraordinary.  I just can’t believe that this could happen like this. 



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Posted on Sun, Jul 14, 2013 19:45

Dakota, what you say is reasonable, logical, rational and all of that.  Tonight I am none of that.  I don't blame the jury -- lousy work with too little information. 

 

 

Sadly, being a damn fool is not against the law.  I don't suppose it should be, but just as being a lousy driver can result in vehicular manslaughter.  So too, being a damn fool that results in a death ought to result in damn fool manslaughter. 

 

 

The jury had that option.  I think he should have had to serve at least a little time beyond what little time he has served.  

 

 

I don't blame the boy for wanting to go back and beat the crap out of him.  If I were his age I am not at all sure I would not have done the same thing.

 

 

We need to better protect our kids from vigilante idiots. 

 

 

The prosecution should have held out for at least a few black women who had teen age sons.  At minimum at least a few black people period.  No doubt they could not have gotten them past the defense. 

 

 

Tomorrow I might return to sanity.

 

 

 

RMac

 



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Posted on Sun, Jul 14, 2013 17:14

Quoting Hoping4Love2000:

Hey DAKOTA---

 

 

 

I did not view much of the trial, but I am from that area, the crime itself being about 20 minutes from where I lived; so the entire incident hit me pretty hard. Being a mother with children close to that age, did not help my emotions either..

 

 

 

So while I sit in no position to say GUILTY or NOT GUILTY, as I only watched fragments of the trial, I DO wish everyone involved PEACE and HEALING...  

 

 

 

The only opinon I feel I have the "right" to state is this:

 

 

 

Zimmerman was in school to be a cop.. and was known by 911 to make many, many phone calls to them. (Over-zealous?) For whatever occured that night, his aggressive actions, (and I say this due to fact HE approached the young man, as by brilliant blonde deduction, he was in his vehicle he stated, and then suddenly he was where the boy was..)

 

 

 

Well, I HAVE experienced what is known in the police force as "John Wayne Syndrome" for "officers" who are a little "too big for their britches"... 

 

and now we have someone, a CHILD, DEAD..... 

 

 

 

He wasn't an officer, he wasn't in uniform, and was in no position of authority to approach that boy--- The boy was walking, not breaking in some place.

 

Well, I pray that man never resides with a badge in hand...  granting him an even stronger license to shoot.. 

 

Do I think the boy attacked him? I think the boy didn't know why this strange man was following him and approaching him, so yes, I'm sure he probably did. I'd attack a man doing this to me as well! The LARGEST part of an officer's obligation and duty is in to ASSESS THE SITUATION AND PROCEED WITH CAUTION.. 

 

2 MAJOR factors I feel Zimmerman failed to do... 

 

And I don't need to see a trial to comprehend this. 

 

HE'D MAKE A "BAD COP!" And we have enough of them! 



And I would not have attacked Zimmerman.  I would have been respectful, had a nice conversation, swallowed my pride if need be, and moved on.

 

I think Trayvon went beserk.  Saw the whole issue as a racial issue; decided to attack.  He was much stronger than the mushy bodied Zimmerman; thought he could overpower him, and attacked.  That's when the real story begins, in my opinion.

 

Trayvon acted like a bloody Neanderthal.  End of story.  Now he's dead.  Too bad.  I feel for his parents.  But not much for Trayvon himself.  He acted like a bigoted, prejudiced against "whites" [since Zimmerman apparently appeared to be white--at least he appeared to be other than Black] kid with an ax to grind.  End of story as far as I'm concerned.

 

And while I don't think much of Zimmerman as a "man," I hope and pray he can find a way to go on living in a state of something less than fear.  The man may have to be put into Witness Protection to go on with his life.  Very sad all in all indeed.

 

 



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Posted on Sat, Jul 13, 2013 22:38

Hey DAKOTA---

 

 

 

I did not view much of the trial, but I am from that area, the crime itself being about 20 minutes from where I lived; so the entire incident hit me pretty hard. Being a mother with children close to that age, did not help my emotions either..

 

 

 

So while I sit in no position to say GUILTY or NOT GUILTY, as I only watched fragments of the trial, I DO wish everyone involved PEACE and HEALING...  

 

 

 

The only opinon I feel I have the "right" to state is this:

 

 

 

Zimmerman was in school to be a cop.. and was known by 911 to make many, many phone calls to them. (Over-zealous?) For whatever occured that night, his aggressive actions, (and I say this due to fact HE approached the young man, as by brilliant blonde deduction, he was in his vehicle he stated, and then suddenly he was where the boy was..)

 

 

 

Well, I HAVE experienced what is known in the police force as "John Wayne Syndrome" for "officers" who are a little "too big for their britches"... 

 

and now we have someone, a CHILD, DEAD..... 

 

 

 

He wasn't an officer, he wasn't in uniform, and was in no position of authority to approach that boy--- The boy was walking, not breaking in some place.

 

Well, I pray that man never resides with a badge in hand...  granting him an even stronger license to shoot.. 

 

Do I think the boy attacked him? I think the boy didn't know why this strange man was following him and approaching him, so yes, I'm sure he probably did. I'd attack a man doing this to me as well! The LARGEST part of an officer's obligation and duty is in to ASSESS THE SITUATION AND PROCEED WITH CAUTION.. 

 

2 MAJOR factors I feel Zimmerman failed to do... 

 

And I don't need to see a trial to comprehend this. 

 

HE'D MAKE A "BAD COP!" And we have enough of them! 



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