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Posted on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 13:44

Lydia Chapin(Taft) was the first woman who voted at Uxbridge, Mass. in 1756(Women Sufferage). Those New England States around New York started allowing women with property to vote. This changed due to the Universal Sufferage of Men law. Some States created legislation that braced the Woman vote, and some rights.  Fast forward to the Obama era, and Women wait for wage, as well as descrimination equality; a mandate, due to their voteing strength. The Republican Congress seats up for grabs will reflect the mandates of the woman in this next two rounds of elections; A 3 year circus! They are numbered, and angry.



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Posted on Sun, Feb 09, 2014 12:06

Quoting 3345roc:

Democrats have bloviated about the Republican's War on Women for some time now.  The parties are at war with each other and it's up to the President to operate above the fray.  The 77 cents statistic, however, was even mentioned by the President in his State of the Union speech.  The liberal media has bowdlerized the facts. You can drink the Kool-Aid and fall prey to these political strategies or you can do your own research.  It would be a worthwhile exercise if you reported back to all of us why that 77 cent statistic is misleading.  Larry Summers'  comments regarding women in  science might be a good starting point. You might recall that he was an Obama advisor.

 
 
Rep. James R. Mann, a Republican from Illinois, probably has had more to do with advancing women's rights than any other politician.
 

Sooooo......basically your answer is *crickets*.  You said nothing except deny it, deny it, deny it.  I'm sure you've heard the saying, If it looks like a duck; If it walks like a duck; If it sounds like a duck.......It IS a Duck!!!!

 

Re:  Rep. James R. Mann from Illinois.  Are you talking about the guy that died in 1922???



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Posted on Sat, Feb 08, 2014 18:35

Quoting Diana3316:

Roc~

What would the Founding Fathers think? 

 

I think they would be highly offended by the lack of respect and decorum afforded to this POTUS.  I also think they would be highly offended by so called Constitution loving House Republicans who choose to ignore Amendment XIV, Section 4, that states “the validity of the public debt…..shall not be questioned”, during the manufactured and regularly occurring debt crises.  I am certain they would be totally disgusted that in 16 days, the Republicans (Ted Cruz et al) orchestrated a government shutdown which took $24 billion dollars out of the US economy, forcing a downgrade in GDP growth forecast to only 2%.  So much for fiscal responsibility!

 

There is no doubt there are many problems with our political system, including the lack of term limits.  Like many Americans, I am fed up with Washington.  But I know there is only ONE party that proudly boasts their primary objective is to see that our government fails.   Our Founding Fathers would not be pleased with that!

 

PS:  Btw....'W' inherited a $128 billion budget surplus, which he turned into an $11 trillion debt and a widespread economic collapse!!  If Gore had won the Presidency....like he really did, we would be debt free today and to your point....the Founding Fathers would have been pleased.

 


I knew we'd agree on many things but if you continue to swallow the Liberal rhetoric without question it will be impossible for you to get the truth.  I also believe that term limits are a step in the right direction but we should also outlaw bribery and should make it illegal for politicians to invest in the stock market using insider information.  Martha Stewart spent 6 months in jail for something politicians do on a daily basis. 

 

I also believe in fiscal responsibility but I think we define it differently.  Bush got a credit card from the National Bank of China and Obama bragging that he's reduced the deficit to 4.1% of GDP... that's still a huge number that's not sustainable.   While I respect the Office of the President the person who occupies that office must earn my respect.  Nixon and Clinton sullied the office.  I do hope that the current one honors his oath regardless of his negative comments about the Constitution prior to being elected.   All of our elected officials, Repubs and Dems, take an Oath to the Constitution and violations are considered a Federal crime.  If you consider how many times their oath has been violated every sitting politician, and current and former Presidents, should be serving time.   

 

We should have no debt limit.  Increasing the debt limit does not increase the debt.  Congress authorizes Federal expenditures so, when the bill comes due you pay it.  The President can propose legislation  but can only approve or veto bills passed by Congress.  A Presidential veto can be overridden by a 2/3 majority by  houses of Congress... it rarely happens.   My view of the "shutdown" was that it was a paid vacation for our overworked Federal workers.  If you think that $24B, or one sixth of one percent, had an effect on GDP there's a bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in.  $24B is what the government spends in about 2 days.  

 

I appreciate the compliment you gave to the Republican Congress regarding the surplus at the end of the Clinton years but even Clinton referred to it as "arithmetic".  The CBO uses fuzzy accounting.  The debt increased under Clinton and it could be an eye opener for you to find out where the surplus came from   I also appreciate the criticism you leveled at the Democratic Congress during the last two of the Bush years.  I can only imagine how large the debt might have been if Gore had become President.

 



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Posted on Sat, Feb 08, 2014 16:03

Quoting Diana3316:

I also know there is only ONE party that consistently votes against bills, like the Paycheck Fairness Act, that advance women’s rights.   Women make 77cents on the dollar that men make performing the same job….yet the House just says “NO”.  Don’t they have daughters?

 

In the wake of Citizens United, Liberals and Progressives were despondent and did not show up to vote in 2010.  Corporations flooded our elections with surreptitious money which allowed the House to fall to Ideologues.   In 2010, unmarried women only turned out at 38%.  They better not do the same thing in the 2014 Congressional elections.  Ladies…..VOTE…..and take your girlfriend with you.  Your lives and your children’s future depend on it!!! 

 

Please Roc…..can you name me ONE Republican that votes for issues that advance women and their issues….like education, safety, wages, healthcare?  Please tell me what bills they have promoted and/or passed? 

 


Democrats have bloviated about the Republican's War on Women for some time now.  The parties are at war with each other and it's up to the President to operate above the fray.  The 77 cents statistic, however, was even mentioned by the President in his State of the Union speech.  The liberal media has bowdlerized the facts. You can drink the Kool-Aid and fall prey to these political strategies or you can do your own research.  It would be a worthwhile exercise if you reported back to all of us why that 77 cent statistic is misleading.  Larry Summers'  comments regarding women in  science might be a good starting point. You might recall that he was an Obama advisor.

 
 
Rep. James R. Mann, a Republican from Illinois, probably has had more to do with advancing women's rights than any other politician.
 


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Posted on Sat, Feb 08, 2014 11:01

I also know there is only ONE party that consistently votes against bills, like the Paycheck Fairness Act, that advance women’s rights.   Women make 77cents on the dollar that men make performing the same job….yet the House just says “NO”.  Don’t they have daughters?

 

In the wake of Citizens United, Liberals and Progressives were despondent and did not show up to vote in 2010.  Corporations flooded our elections with surreptitious money which allowed the House to fall to Ideologues.   In 2010, unmarried women only turned out at 38%.  They better not do the same thing in the 2014 Congressional elections.  Ladies…..VOTE…..and take your girlfriend with you.  Your lives and your children’s future depend on it!!! 

 

Please Roc…..can you name me ONE Republican that votes for issues that advance women and their issues….like education, safety, wages, healthcare?  Please tell me what bills they have promoted and/or passed? 

 



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Posted on Fri, Feb 07, 2014 22:14

Roc~

What would the Founding Fathers think? 

 

I think they would be highly offended by the lack of respect and decorum afforded to this POTUS.  I also think they would be highly offended by so called Constitution loving House Republicans who choose to ignore Amendment XIV, Section 4, that states “the validity of the public debt…..shall not be questioned”, during the manufactured and regularly occurring debt crises.  I am certain they would be totally disgusted that in 16 days, the Republicans (Ted Cruz et al) orchestrated a government shutdown which took $24 billion dollars out of the US economy, forcing a downgrade in GDP growth forecast to only 2%.  So much for fiscal responsibility!

 

There is no doubt there are many problems with our political system, including the lack of term limits.  Like many Americans, I am fed up with Washington.  But I know there is only ONE party that proudly boasts their primary objective is to see that our government fails.   Our Founding Fathers would not be pleased with that!

 

PS:  Btw....'W' inherited a $128 billion budget surplus, which he turned into an $11 trillion debt and a widespread economic collapse!!  If Gore had won the Presidency....like he really did, we would be debt free today and to your point....the Founding Fathers would have been pleased.

 



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Posted on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 17:09

Quoting Diana3316:

*sigh*  Look Roc….ALL politicians lie!!!  All people lie!  The important factor is the intent and the effect of the lie.  If I tell my dying friend that she’s looking better when it’s not true….then that is not a sinister lie, but it is a lie never the less.  When you engage in a premeditated plot to deceive the American public which plunges the country into a war that kills thousands and plunders the treasury to the grand financial benefit of political allies….then that is a sinister and immoral lie.  If a President makes a statement that is true for 90% of the public, as in the case “you can keep your policy”…..but miscalculates the behavior of insurance companies who cancel policies rather than upgrade the coverage to be in compliance with the law, then that does not rise to the level of a sinister lie.  And when that small percent of the public complains enough because they want to keep their junk policies….an adjustment is made in order to provide grandfathering for those junk policies, that displays a willingness to in good faith try to serve the public’s will.  Once again, the intent was not meant to be intentionally deceitful and therefore not a sinister lie.  

 

Do you get everything right the first time you try to do something hard?  I'll bet not, and I don't think President Obama does everything right!  In fact I am very disappointed with the ACA.  I am unhappy because it is not the best way to tackle the problem of healthcare in this country.  An idea spawned by the Heritage Society, promoted as an alternative to Hillary Care, implemented as Romney Care…..it is complex, difficult to implement and leaves the Insurance Companies still making profits off of something that should be a civil right!  However, it is the law and I view it as our duty as patriot citizens to dig in and try to make improvements as needed.  The polls are clear that the American people do not want to go back to the way it was…..so quit being so repugnant!

 


I guess there are quite a few here that have views that are contrary to yours.  I do agree with you on many issues but, while you demonize Republicans I demonize politicians.  What would the Founding Fathers think about the state of the Union they so dearly fought for.  Do you find their views of the Federal Debt repugnant?

 

No measure can be more desirable, whether viewed with an eye to its intrinsic importance, or to the general sentiment and wish of the Nation” than to establish “a systematic and effectual arrangement for the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt. ~ George Washington

 

No pecuniary consideration is more urgent than the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt. ~ George Washington

I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. ~ Thomas Jefferson



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Posted on Wed, Feb 05, 2014 19:28

*sigh*  Look Roc….ALL politicians lie!!!  All people lie!  The important factor is the intent and the effect of the lie.  If I tell my dying friend that she’s looking better when it’s not true….then that is not a sinister lie, but it is a lie never the less.  When you engage in a premeditated plot to deceive the American public which plunges the country into a war that kills thousands and plunders the treasury to the grand financial benefit of political allies….then that is a sinister and immoral lie.  If a President makes a statement that is true for 90% of the public, as in the case “you can keep your policy”…..but miscalculates the behavior of insurance companies who cancel policies rather than upgrade the coverage to be in compliance with the law, then that does not rise to the level of a sinister lie.  And when that small percent of the public complains enough because they want to keep their junk policies….an adjustment is made in order to provide grandfathering for those junk policies, that displays a willingness to in good faith try to serve the public’s will.  Once again, the intent was not meant to be intentionally deceitful and therefore not a sinister lie.  

 

Do you get everything right the first time you try to do something hard?  I'll bet not, and I don't think President Obama does everything right!  In fact I am very disappointed with the ACA.  I am unhappy because it is not the best way to tackle the problem of healthcare in this country.  An idea spawned by the Heritage Society, promoted as an alternative to Hillary Care, implemented as Romney Care…..it is complex, difficult to implement and leaves the Insurance Companies still making profits off of something that should be a civil right!  However, it is the law and I view it as our duty as patriot citizens to dig in and try to make improvements as needed.  The polls are clear that the American people do not want to go back to the way it was…..so quit being so repugnant!

 



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Posted on Tue, Feb 04, 2014 05:31

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Greed is most assuredly not good and it never has been and never will be!!  Greed has not put out a fire, Greed does not keep our streets safe, Greed has not helped an accident victim along the side of the road, Greed has never given a blanket to a homeless veteran, Greed has not taught a child, Greed has not given you the best possible health care coverage, and Greed has not brought neighbors of all colors, sexual orientations and political persuasions together as Americans.

 

And before someone launches into a "you're a socialist" tirade, let me be clear that I am all for capitalism that pays a fair and just wage for the services or goods a person provides.  But Laissez-faire capitalism (unfettered and unregulated free markets) is nothing but a bastardization of true capitalism that allows greed to be the primary driver of "private decisions".

 

Over the past decade we have seen many Republican politicians devoutly going to church every week in an overt public display and claim God directs their every move in public life.  Yet they have ignored the basic Christian ideal, that "Greed" is one of the seven deadly sins.  Were these Republicans too busy counting their homes and cars to hear that part of the sermon?

 


Ick, ick, ick Diana.  LOL

 

Balloons don't put out fires or keep our streets safe but eveyone loves balloons.

 

You're getting a bit greedy too.... posting parts of Nelson's Op-ed on two separate blogs.

 

Here's the entire article for those of like minds.

 


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Posted on Mon, Feb 03, 2014 19:48

I once heard that the military tries to spend more than their budget, so the can ask for more plus, the next year. That $48 million bldg. sitting vacant in Helmant Province, Afghanistan, although built for the Army's Southwest Command to handle  the surge in 2010, may be torn down, or turned over to the Afghan Gov't. According to security zone posts under negotiation, it would not be included. Will be a nice place for the Taliban to clean up, and train at; coming down from the mountains after we leave. John Sopko, Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) found that one. He is hated by the Defense Dept, State Dept, and USAID for exposing that, and other projects that were shabbily done with earmarked, Congressionally directed funds. I fear a Daja-vu moment near!

I'm just a middle-aged, middle-eastern camel herdin' man
I got a little, 2 bedroom cave here in North Afghanistan
Things used to be real nice and they got out of hand when they moved in
They call themselves the Taliban
(ooooo yeah the taliban) (taliban baby)

Now I ain't seen my wife's face since they came here
They make her wear a scarf over her head that covers her  from ear to ear
She loves the desert and the hot white sand 
But man she's just like me, nah she can't stand 
The Taliban (ooo taliban baby)

You know someday soon we're both gonna saddle up and it'll be 
Ride Camel Ride
My old lady she'll be here with me, smilin right by my side
We should do just fine out around Palestine or maybe Turkmenistan
We'll bid a fair adieu and flip the middle finger to the Taliban
(oh yeah the taliban) (baby)

 


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Posted on Sun, Feb 02, 2014 14:49

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Getting back to things that make you go hmmm....



  hummm,  I love this one.


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Posted on Sun, Feb 02, 2014 09:30

Greed is most assuredly not good and it never has been and never will be!!  Greed has not put out a fire, Greed does not keep our streets safe, Greed has not helped an accident victim along the side of the road, Greed has never given a blanket to a homeless veteran, Greed has not taught a child, Greed has not given you the best possible health care coverage, and Greed has not brought neighbors of all colors, sexual orientations and political persuasions together as Americans.

 

And before someone launches into a "you're a socialist" tirade, let me be clear that I am all for capitalism that pays a fair and just wage for the services or goods a person provides.  But Laissez-faire capitalism (unfettered and unregulated free markets) is nothing but a bastardization of true capitalism that allows greed to be the primary driver of "private decisions".

 

Over the past decade we have seen many Republican politicians devoutly going to church every week in an overt public display and claim God directs their every move in public life.  Yet they have ignored the basic Christian ideal, that "Greed" is one of the seven deadly sins.  Were these Republicans too busy counting their homes and cars to hear that part of the sermon?

 



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Posted on Sat, Feb 01, 2014 08:04

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Awww....Roc.  Now why do you want to tug on Super Woman's cape???  We were playing so nice together!  *wink*


Love Jim Croce.. a local Philly boy.  Growing up in NYC we looked up to Leroy Brown and lusted after junkyard dogs... if only I could save time in a bottle.


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Posted on Fri, Jan 31, 2014 19:48

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Getting back to things that make you go hmmm....



Awww....Roc.  Now why do you want to tug on Super Woman's cape???  We were playing so nice together!  *wink*



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Posted on Thu, Jan 30, 2014 15:13

Getting back to things that make you go hmmm....


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Posted on Wed, Jan 29, 2014 00:06

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Awww....they're sleeping, Fishy!!!  loloo...sooo cute!  Here's their friend doing the Macarena!



  Lady Diana, I can tell you truthfully, at 1 million hairs per square inch, sleeping naked in sea otter hides is the warmest sleep I've ever had. The indigenous Alaska Natives are allowed to harvest and sell their hides. Up here we have LOTS and the small amount of harvesting doesn't hurt their numbers. I will not get into the horror of watching over populations starve and freeze to death. In my 35 years here it is a sight and sound that, even hardened to our way of life here, I can't drive from my mind. Harvesting saves many from that slow 2 week death.  : Note to tree huggers, Come walk my winter beaches with me sometime, after you see the sorrow even you might agree.

 

 

  I've only been up to polor bear country 1 time and but they were elsewhere. It's about 800 miles north of me and I don't get up there much. I do know that on the ice pack polor bears hunt humans the same as anything else.

 

 

  I've been trying to reply about Sarah Palin and her corruption but I'm so overwelmed because corruption is such a normal way of life here in the political arena and in the judicial branch of goverment as well. Alaska as a state is only 55 years old with almost 1 million people now and 1/5th the size of the lower 48 states. It's founders setteled everything in the bar over drinks then in court went on record. Cocaine was once proposed to be de-criminalized by legislators. I wonder who was doing it back then, hummmm.


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Posted on Sun, Jan 26, 2014 09:33

Awww....they're sleeping, Fishy!!!  loloo...sooo cute!  Here's their friend doing the Macarena!


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