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Posted on Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:14

The retribution's of the killing's in Israeli-Palastine relationship's did not happen with the death's of the 3. That has been the powderkeg, with a fuse, and 1 spark to  light it. God gave specific instructions, to clear the Land...Purge...Surge...No compromise!

Israel protect's itself well,with the Pariot's. Funny thing about the process; They,"Roofknock". Now, I'm sure, they are calling that target's cell phone, as the little bomb hit's the roof. 5 minutes...Tick...tock...ti.BOOM. The Israeli's are pretty damn SMART.

 

 We got HAARP's with Reagan, through Tesla....



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Posted on Fri, Jul 11, 2014 21:25

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Sarah Palin has a new vid out, with the same Impeach redorick we've seen in every Demo. Admin for 20 years. Reid has not dropped the 51/49 bomb. Palin talks about our border's, as articles of impeachment. Obama has deported more illegal's than the former President's. The funny one was that the FLOTUS should stay home. No President's Lady stays home. They age with the President. FDR's wife ran the Country for a while, and Nancy was strong with Ronald Reagan.

The women play a part in history. Palin said that immigration was the primary problem we should deal with. Is this yet, another smokescreen for GOP Congress failing to revitilize the job market? That's the biggie....Along with equal pay for equal work. Some are soooooo out of touch!  ////|||B;;L8{{[{**00000**}]$$(o)$${LV1}o{}-8\\\



Why would you want to impeach Redorik.. she's just a starving artist.


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Posted on Wed, Jul 09, 2014 21:36

Sarah Palin has a new vid out, with the same Impeach redorick we've seen in every Demo. Admin for 20 years. Reid has not dropped the 51/49 bomb. Palin talks about our border's, as articles of impeachment. Obama has deported more illegal's than the former President's. The funny one was that the FLOTUS should stay home. No President's Lady stays home. They age with the President. FDR's wife ran the Country for a while, and Nancy was strong with Ronald Reagan.

The women play a part in history. Palin said that immigration was the primary problem we should deal with. Is this yet, another smokescreen for GOP Congress failing to revitilize the job market? That's the biggie....Along with equal pay for equal work. Some are soooooo out of touch!  ////|||B;;L8{{[{**00000**}]$$(o)$${LV1}o{}-8\\\



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Posted on Wed, Jul 09, 2014 20:55

Quoting leonicvirgo:

Sitchin....That's ancient! I read his Chronicle in '85, and have seen many views of those artifact's. Funny, the eliptic's that tie pyrimid's, and stonehenge related site's, worldwide.

 

 



Leo,

I never heard of Sitchin, but I looked him up.  I have heard of the theory though.  You and Voyager54 would have gotten alone well.  He believed in the Sitchin theory...but alas....he got banned from the site.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 09, 2014 08:40

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What's this about... the Hobby Lobby case or Harris vs Quinn?


I am at all-out war with Hobby Lobby!  That nasty old man who owns Hobby Lobby is nothing but a common hypocrite….and of the worst kind!!  He sends Millions of dollars over to China supporting a government that sponsors real abortions, buying bobbles and beads….which he then sells to women! 

 

It will be a cold day before I spend another quarter in a Hobby Lobby store!  I will drive 10 miles out of my way to shop at Michael’s next time I buy glitter!



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Posted on Mon, Jul 07, 2014 18:53

Can we please keep religion in the churches where it belongs?????


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Posted on Mon, Jul 07, 2014 17:39

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All over America, CEOs are looking for a religion that views raises and vacations as sinful.  Thanks Supreme Court!!!



Sitchin....That's ancient! I read his Chronicle in '85, and have seen many views of those artifact's. Funny, the eliptic's that tie pyrimid's, and stonehenge related site's, worldwide.

 

 



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Posted on Mon, Jul 07, 2014 14:57

Quoting Diana3316:

All over America, CEOs are looking for a religion that views raises and vacations as sinful.  Thanks Supreme Court!!!



What's this about... the Hobby Lobby case or Harris vs Quinn?



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Posted on Mon, Jul 07, 2014 14:45

Quoting InfinityColumn:

Roc, what am I going to do with you? i've expressed a few concerns about your "opinions" on here...you say you're "not judgmental"...:"jump down that rabbit hole Diaha inhabits": this is not only judgmental, but rude, especially in the context.

 

I coclude, giving you're a PO gentleman as you stated it on various occasions, that's pretty much lots of anger and rage going on within yourself, and i doubt one can hear you when you vent it on others....If I can give you an advice in return,  just find a place of peace with yourself.

 

In general, overall, as i've experienced this in the recent past, where i thought i was on a religious-christian site on here, and now with this politics ridity going on, with all the psychological violence that these create, I also do believe that something of the nature of extremism is going on, to say the least. So, as a new comer in this coutnry, with all the stuff i still have to learn, i prefer the reality of the real scholars that do deeply study these types of violences- instead of getting too easily in the "hole" of only venting on here....


" Roc, what am I going to do with you?"...  Wait a minute now, are you flirting with me?  If you are I'm gonna need a picture.     Jumping down the rabbit hole is a saying that comes from the chidren's story "Alice in Wonderland".  Have you read it?  Alice, the heroine, follows the March Hare and jumps, feet first, down his rabbit hole.... without looking.  It's an expression used to caution someone to examine what's in the hole before you jump in.  It was directed towards you and, in my opinion, was neither rude nor judgemental.  That's the thing about opinions.       I'm generally a pretty mellow fellow and rage and anger are definitely not my style because they serve no useful purpose.  I have a great life, a job that I loved that enabled me to retire at 53 to enjoy life's simple pleasures.  I moved to Savannah to be near my daughter when she had twin girls four years ago.  I have nor worries and no regrets and I'm happy as a clam.  Oh, that's another expression.  Please don;'t give me fifteen reasons why clams aren't happy.       I did include one post depicting the state of politics in the US.... Republican, Democrat or P*ssed Off.  If you concluded that I was a p*ssed off, angry, raging and venting ... once again, your opinion, but it's not my style.  Just remember that it's better to be p*ssed off than p*ssed on.    


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Posted on Mon, Jul 07, 2014 10:50

All over America, CEOs are looking for a religion that views raises and vacations as sinful.  Thanks Supreme Court!!!


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Posted on Sun, Jul 06, 2014 10:08

Quoting 3345roc:

You seem quite intelligent and you're certainly well educated so I'd recommend that you take a look at the bill and do some research as to why it was voted down by women as well as men.  These mid term elections are up for grabs  as Diana pointed out and I think you'll find political theater or political comedy gushing from both left and right.  Do your due diligence before you jump down that rabbit hole Diana inhabits.

 

While those on the left favor large government, those on the right prefer small government.  The rest of us in the middle favor efffective government and we are severely disappointed... Washington is broken and all of this partisan BS isn't helping.  It's probably best to bulldoze the lot of them into the Potomac and start from scratch because the Washington aristocracy has been bought and paid for and they have no incentive to fix anything.

 

Regarding this particular issue much has been said by the talking heads on both sides of the aisle.  If you check the organizations that verify the facts you'll conclude both sides have been lying.  Snopes aand Factcheck are two sites.

 

In addition, if you actually read the bill you'll realize that it doesn't replace the bill passed in 1963 which made pay discrimination based upon gender, to be illegal.



Roc, what am I going to do with you? i've expressed a few concerns about your "opinions" on here...you say you're "not judgmental"...:"jump down that rabbit hole Diaha inhabits": this is not only judgmental, but rude, especially in the context.

 

I coclude, giving you're a PO gentleman as you stated it on various occasions, that's pretty much lots of anger and rage going on within yourself, and i doubt one can hear you when you vent it on others....If I can give you an advice in return,  just find a place of peace with yourself.

 

In general, overall, as i've experienced this in the recent past, where i thought i was on a religious-christian site on here, and now with this politics ridity going on, with all the psychological violence that these create, I also do believe that something of the nature of extremism is going on, to say the least. So, as a new comer in this coutnry, with all the stuff i still have to learn, i prefer the reality of the real scholars that do deeply study these types of violences- instead of getting too easily in the "hole" of only venting on here....



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Posted on Sun, Jul 06, 2014 09:56

Quoting Diana3316:

I know Infinity.  It is quite remarkable the state we are in today!  However, it's kind of like a bully in the schoolyard...someone HAS to speak up to make him stop.  If no one speaks up, he will keep being a bully.  It took this country 50yrs to allow women the Right to vote after the black man got the Right!  Why?  I know there are men out there who believe in fairness, but if we don't speak.....and ACT ...on issues that affect us, then who else can we expect to?  

 

My mission is to try to have substantive conversations about important social and national issues that I am interested in.  Hopefully it sparks some interest in others as well. 

 

Thanks  a bunch for your support.  It means a lot!  :))



To tell you the truth, i'm staying here only because of you, for a few more miles. And even if I won't post anymore or as much, I'll read you, as i learn truly from you. :)).



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Posted on Wed, Jul 02, 2014 19:35

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I do understand what you are trying to do, you are very courageous!! Yet, i'm concerned that you are getting burned, here. I'm hopeless here, for sure, but not in real life, where I do fight my battles. 

 

Maybe a thought about that scary"ad", what it tells me, is that they don't like women, simple as that. It's something strinkgly regressive (as is racism, etc.), that i cannot comprehend. It reminds me somewhat the Inquisition....the issue appears to be quite deep....


You seem quite intelligent and you're certainly well educated so I'd recommend that you take a look at the bill and do some research as to why it was voted down by women as well as men.  These mid term elections are up for grabs  as Diana pointed out and I think you'll find political theater or political comedy gushing from both left and right.  Do your due diligence before you jump down that rabbit hole Diana inhabits.

 

While those on the left favor large government, those on the right prefer small government.  The rest of us in the middle favor efffective government and we are severely disappointed... Washington is broken and all of this partisan BS isn't helping.  It's probably best to bulldoze the lot of them into the Potomac and start from scratch because the Washington aristocracy has been bought and paid for and they have no incentive to fix anything.

 

Regarding this particular issue much has been said by the talking heads on both sides of the aisle.  If you check the organizations that verify the facts you'll conclude both sides have been lying.  Snopes aand Factcheck are two sites.

 

In addition, if you actually read the bill you'll realize that it doesn't replace the bill passed in 1963 which made pay discrimination based upon gender, to be illegal.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 02, 2014 06:51

My inquisitive spirit looks at the men to women ratio; 153 mill. to 157 mill...most over 65(grand's). Women live longer on average, and dominate the voting Republic. That fight is still there, and is showing with the Congressional Campaign's. There are over 1 million groups out there, finding the ill's of the Republic, and aggressively seeking change. They've looked at History, and see where the snake has anesthetized, by varied means; the sheeple. Lambs to the slaughter. I would watch this Women's movement. Women grow tired of the equality struggle. They also, supply almost all of the food on the table, with Dad doing dishes. Women are passionate; especially to good causes that have a max. effect, to affect change. This is a 30 year cycle, from 2006. Saturn is cleansing, as it trudges through Scorpio. Saturn is defining, and exacting with the women.....All women. The math speaks volume's

 

Now, this is the fight to watch. Those women oriented,reality shows, were a smack snack to what is coming; phalanx style. Some might want to invest in Female Psych. 101, at your local Uni. My hearing must be better. I heard that train coming long ago. Change train's don't stop on a dime. All of those chauvinist's on the tracks. Things that....Well; you know!    (-{}-L"""8///LV1\\;-) 



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Posted on Tue, Jul 01, 2014 23:07

Quoting InfinityColumn:

I do understand what you are trying to do, you are very courageous!! Yet, i'm concerned that you are getting burned, here. I'm hopeless here, for sure, but not in real life, where I do fight my battles. 

 

Maybe a thought about that scary"ad", what it tells me, is that they don't like women, simple as that. It's something strinkgly regressive (as is racism, etc.), that i cannot comprehend. It reminds me somewhat the Inquisition....the issue appears to be quite deep....


I know Infinity.  It is quite remarkable the state we are in today!  However, it's kind of like a bully in the schoolyard...someone HAS to speak up to make him stop.  If no one speaks up, he will keep being a bully.  It took this country 50yrs to allow women the Right to vote after the black man got the Right!  Why?  I know there are men out there who believe in fairness, but if we don't speak.....and ACT ...on issues that affect us, then who else can we expect to?  

 

My mission is to try to have substantive conversations about important social and national issues that I am interested in.  Hopefully it sparks some interest in others as well. 

 

Thanks  a bunch for your support.  It means a lot!  :))



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Posted on Tue, Jul 01, 2014 08:04

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You can be a smart aleck if you want to Roc....I don't care.  But I just hope women....and some men that profess to care about women, will understand that this mid-term election matters!  Because if Republicans win the majority in the Senate, there will be NO moderate Supreme Court Justices confirmed.....and we will see continued rulings in favor of corporations over people.



"Smart aleck" without a wink, I guess you're being serious. 

 

I believe that any employer who consistently displays gender pay bias should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.  Let me repeat that because it represents the difference in the way we think.....  

 

"I believe that any employer who consistently displays gender pay bias should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law".

 

In a related story, yesterday Obama said "he will no longer wait for Republicans to act on immigration and will move on his own to make policy changes in what has been a top second-term priority of his presidency.".... " he will refocus immigration enforcement onto a Mexican border..... put resources into deporting ..... border-crossers or individuals who pose a threat to public safety and national security."

 

In other words, since the Republicans won't pass an Immigration Reform Bill he will enforce the current law.  Why that requires "executive action" is a mystery to me but exemplifies the differece between policy and politics.

 

You're right in assuming that the publicity regarding this bill has more to do with the mid-term elections than it has to do with policy but wouldn't it be nice if he tried to enforce the law that's been on the books for 50 years.


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Posted on Mon, Jun 30, 2014 21:39

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Infinity,

That's why there are only a few of us that frequent this place.  We understand others don't like or are interested in government/politics, so we try to keep it here.  It frustrates me very much that most people are apathetic and seem to think things are hopeless, which leaves them vulnerable to exploiters.  My mission in this conservative dominated environment, is to bring a different point of view to think about.



I do understand what you are trying to do, you are very courageous!! Yet, i'm concerned that you are getting burned, here. I'm hopeless here, for sure, but not in real life, where I do fight my battles. 

 

Maybe a thought about that scary"ad", what it tells me, is that they don't like women, simple as that. It's something strinkgly regressive (as is racism, etc.), that i cannot comprehend. It reminds me somewhat the Inquisition....the issue appears to be quite deep....



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Posted on Mon, Jun 30, 2014 17:35

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If by "punk" you mean incorrect you're correct, it's incorrect.  If you do find that an employer is discriminating against women regarding pay you should bring a suit... the law making it illegal to do so has been on the books for 50 years.

 

I don't know for sure but fairly certain Ron appreciates you support but if you have really been regretting your vote every day for the last 30 years I understand your propensity for Kool Aid.



You can be a smart aleck if you want to Roc....I don't care.  But I just hope women....and some men that profess to care about women, will understand that this mid-term election matters!  Because if Republicans win the majority in the Senate, there will be NO moderate Supreme Court Justices confirmed.....and we will see continued rulings in favor of corporations over people.



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Posted on Mon, Jun 30, 2014 17:16

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If by "punk" you mean incorrect you're correct, it's incorrect.  If you do find that an employer is discriminating against women regarding pay you should bring a suit... the law making it illegal to do so has been on the books for 50 years.

 

I don't know for sure but fairly certain Ron appreciates you support but if you have really been regretting your vote every day for the last 30 years I understand your propensity for Kool Aid.


Incorrect Roc!  The key concept is.....IF you could find out within 180 days of the first discriminating paycheck.  Luckily we had a Democratic Congress and POTUS that got a bunch of things done in the first 2 yrs, including the Lilly Ledbetter Act which gave women time to find out and bring a lawsuit.  Now we need the tools in which to find out!!  The law is not on the side of paycheck fairness.  If employers are not discriminating...what are they afraid of???? 

 

From the National Women's Law Center:  

 

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

January 29, 2013 

 

Women today are paid, on average, only 77 cents for every dollar paid to men. And the gap is even worse for women of color - African American women earn only 64 cents and Latina women earn only 55 cents for each dollar earned by males. To help address this unfair and unacceptable wage gap, President Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act on January 29, 2009,restoring the protection against pay discrimination that was stripped away by the Supreme Court’s decision in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. 

 

The Act reinstates prior law and makes clear that pay discrimination claims on the basis of sex, race, national origin, age, religion and disability “accrue” whenever an employee receives a discriminatory paycheck, as well as when a discriminatory pay decision or practice is adopted, when a person becomes subject to the decision or practice, or when a person is otherwise affected by the decision or practice. The law is retroactive to May 28, 2007, the day before the Court issued its ruling in Ledbetter 

 

Background on Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. 

 

Lilly Ledbetter was one of the few female supervisors at the Goodyear plant in Gadsden, Alabama, and worked there for close to two decades. She faced sexual harassment at the plant and was told by her boss that he didn’t think a woman should be working there. Her co-workers bragged about their overtime pay, but Goodyear did not allow its employees to discuss their pay, and Ms. Ledbetter did not know she was the subject of discrimination until she received an anonymous note revealing the salaries of three of the male managers. After she filed a complaint with the EEOC, her case went to trial, and the jury awarded her back-pay and approximately $3.3 million in compensatory and punitive damages for the extreme nature of the pay discrimination to which she had been subjected. 

 

The Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit reversed the jury verdict, holding that her case was filed too late - even though Ms. Ledbetter continued to receive discriminatory pay - because the company’s original decision on her pay had been made years earlier. In a 5-4 decision authored by Justice Alito, the Supreme Court upheld the Eleventh Circuit decision and ruled that employees cannot challenge ongoing pay discrimination if the employer’s original discriminatory pay decision occurred more than 180 days earlier, even when the employee continues to receive paychecks that have been discriminatorily reduced.

 

This decision upset longstanding precedent under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and other important civil rights statutes. It also undermined the Congressional goal of eliminating discrimination in the workplace. Contrary to Title VII’s intent to encourage voluntary compliance by employers, the Ledbetter decision created incentives for employers to conceal their discriminatory conduct until the 180 day period had passed. Moreover, the decision allowed pay discrimination to continue - and employers to benefit from it - indefinitely. With each discriminatorily reduced paycheck, employers continued to reap financial benefits from discrimination.



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Posted on Mon, Jun 30, 2014 17:00

So for the third time, Senate Republicans blocked a vote merely to bring the Paycheck Fairness Act up for a DEBATE!  Every single Republican and 1 Independent voted “No”, thereby causing the Democrats to fall short of the 60 votes needed to overcome the Republican filibuster.  All Democrats and Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) voted in favor of debating.

 

The Paycheck Fairness Act would hold employers more accountable for wage discrimination against women, by making it illegal for employers to retaliate against employees who discuss salaries and it would also require the Department of Labor to collect wage data from employers, broken down by race and gender, and require employers to show that wage differentials between men and women in the same jobs are for a reason other than sex.

 

This bill would eliminate the culture of silence that keeps women in the dark about pay discrimination.

 

"This is not just an issue of fairness," President Barack Obama said in a speech. "It’s also a family issue and an economic issue, because women make up about half of our workforce and they’re increasingly the breadwinners for a whole lot of families out there. So when they make less money, it means less money for gas, less money for groceries, less money for child care, less money for college tuition, less money is going into retirement savings."

 

It's so disappointing to me that the Senate can't even agree to debate it!!!

 



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